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I disagree with you Karrots. Killing a family only ensues hate towards your own family (because you are the one who killed a whole family) and thus making it more likely that:

1. People will hunt your family back, because you killed them.
2. People will hunt your family back, even if the original raiders are dead and thus ending your line
3. People won't play in your family/with you because you were that person/your family were the persons who killed a whole family.

Who are you to decide that your family is more important than mine, and thus we shall die? Who are you to decide that you need the iron/tools/water/buckets/whatever more than us, and thus that it is "fair" to steal? Who are you to decide that, because you are "lucky" enough to be born into family A one life, families B and C don't matter and thus can be die off? In short, who are you to decide that YOUR game is more important than the game of EVERYONE ELSE you raid; killing them or 'only stealing tools' or 'kill all the sheep because reeee'? You only life one hour, at most, and after that you are part of another family.. You are not the one who could decide that he is better than everyone else, because you 'feel like it'.

(And yes, I see you don't raid.. but I say this to you since you brought it up.)

So yeah, I agree that people killing/raiding towns are doing that because of their bloodthirsty. (And big ego's, but thats another story.)

Yes, you play for your family. And next life for that family. And next life for that family.

So all with all you grief your griefed cities because you change family- woohoo, good job, great family player!

I didn't want to say things you didn't say, I just asked what I thought you said. I'm a non-native English speaker, so I'm sorry if I hurt your feelings.

I asked because there are people who do things like I say (So: Killing someone for killing a griefer), and I like to understand what people like that think. I'm more than once killed by someone because I killed a griefer "Because you killed reeee", and thought you said you thought the same.

Well, on your second life: there is nothing wrong with swapping backpacks if the kid has a knife in it. That your granma died and give you her sword, don't mean that it is yours. A sword is.. different in some way- because you can't use that like a knife- but still. If that sword had to be used by someone, it is or "waiting till you are big enough to use it" or "Swap it and use it yourself now" Ofcourse, there is a third way, of just asking you, but if you're not reacting on time or won't give it up, there will people die because of your granma who gave you a tool you can't use for years and years.
- That being said, it was idiot of him to try to let you cursed and killed because you did the same! So yes, that outcome wasn't ideal.

Then to go back to the point: I think there are enough reasons to kill people without he killing someone. A kid who screams that he wants to kill all, a griefer, a racist for example. Annoying others without working is just.. annoying, living with someone who is racist is not my favorite thing in life. That being said, only killing because someone killed someone, means this:
- Person A kills all sheep, is racist and/or hides tool
- Person B kills person A, because of what he did.
- Person C killed person B, because he killed person A

The question is: who is fault? I would say person A and C, because person B helped the village get lost of a griefer.. now, some people (Like LunyTerror?) would say person B because he killed someone who didn't kill himself .. but, if you think like that, how would you react on griefers? Do you just think "ah whatever he hided the bowsaw, the file, killed all sheeps and is racist.. we just make them back! No problem! Live free your person A, you did nothing wrong!" because that just seems.. weird.

No no and no. Forcing a player to play a way don't work; if you pay for it or just get "so many lives", it just will not work. You got angry people and angry people go griefing. They don't play we're they are at that moment, forcing them to stay is annoying for both the mother ("Oh god this kid KEEPS SUICIDING ALL MY FERTILE LIFE STOP IT"), for babies ("I don't want to be here! I want away! If I can't die you will pay the price!") and for other players. "Oh hi that is that kid that suicided twenty times in a row by picking up a tool and run away far to die!". "Oh hey a Nie- oh dead. Oh a neph- dead. Oh a nie- dead." "I try to smith/compost/bake/whatever but everytime a kid who don't want to be here runs away after breaking my work!".

I had an idea but I have the feeling not everyone have read it, so I repeat:

I posted this idea first in the “Having a child should be a moment of joy… not like getting spam” topic (Post 14, if you want to see the original.)

My idea is to keep thing like they are. Meaning that, like now, you can run away as baby, you can /die as baby, you can run away older. But, the game “remember” your choices. Do you run away as a boy/girl? In an Eve camp? In an city? Do you ignore all your babies? That will all change your next births. I was thinking to give the game more options in how you spawn. Not by asking you “Hey do you want to spawn here?” or letting your follow your mom in her womb, but by making an sort of algoritme.

Then you will get people with different playstyles. Here I name a couple:

- Player A is not keen on playing as boy. If player A suicide by running/die-in enough the game would "learn" that and give him more chance to be a Girl in first change (So that he don't need to suicide.)

- Player B hates to be born in Eve-camps so as Eve or eve-kid. The game learns that and won't let player B born here. Or at least, far less. (So, player B would be born as gen 4 at least.)

- Player C hates the city with lots of people. Meaning that he will be more likely to be born in an Eve-camp or as eve's kids, because that's where he stays.

- Player D playes everywhere, always. Player D won't get a special role, but will be born in the cases where players A, B and C became less likely to be born.

- Player E playes everwhere and always, but has an slight plus towards a boy. Maybe because this player when playing as a woman, let all her babies die. This player will be more likely be spawn in as a boy.

But, player A, B, C and E will also born in all other situations. Meaning that player A will spawn as boy, but less so. But, it will have still less than player D. Maybe the starting chance to play a boy/girl if 50%. If Player A the first fifty times /die does as boy (Or run away, or suicide on another way) there will be a 60%/40% ratio. If player A then keeps suiciding as boy (The 40% he spawns as boy) this will become less likely. It now has 70% chance to play as a girl and 30% as a boy?

But, if Player A decides that he becomes annoyed by playing as a girl, he can work the other way around. Meaning that if he suicide fifty times as a girl, the change will by 60%/40% again to play as girl. The next hundred times he suicide as boy, this will go back to 50%. And, maybe he will even turn into a player E (The player who is more likely to be spawn in as a boy instead!). The same with someone who prefer bigger Cities, they can go back to Eve camps and vice versa.

The new players will be always a Player D. For them there will be no changes, until they start suiciding in  a situation. Or, if they don’t suicide, they will be stay as a Player D!

For older players though, the more they play, the more they start to play in a certain way. They will be less and less likely to spawn in other situations, but there will always be a chance they WILL be spawned into a situation. This way, the players who will be born to you, are more likely to stay with you. Because it’s more likely that they play the way they like to play. In the long run, that will be less /die babies, less running babies and less kids who bring bears because they are angry because you force them to stay.

This maybe sound like an "Just give them an Eve option" but thats not what it has to be. With a button like that you HAVE to be an Eve, what the phrase to "Every life is other, you can spawn wherever and whenever" is false. In my idea you CAN be spawn as eve, but not as likely as in a big city for example. Life will matter because you play were you want to play, you will have less need to grief (Because you're where you want to play, so you should be happy.. at least most of the time) and cities can grow.

The problem with taking cooldown on /die there is a huge stand that if you get a baby while on a cooldown, this kid would A. run away and suicide (and with that, not deleting my birthcooldown. While if they /die I don't have a cooldown) and B. if they decide to stay, they will gonna grief later. "Your stupid and I didn't like it hear, so I'm making sure you regret it!' that kinda stuff.

What I would suggest is to give people an indicator he wouldn't go back to his other life. Something like "You died from Starvation on age thirty - You won't come back here for ninety minutes." so that he wouldn't /die to ga back there. Would give an indicator that /die won't work.

Second, I would suggest that mothers won't get a birth cooldown the first ten seconds after a baby is born. That means that if I walk away to show Baby 1 a camp, I can put him down and pick Baby 2 up, without him already /die-ing on me so I get a cooldown. It now only counts when you pick it up, but at least 60% of the time I even can't pick it up (Because he dies in the first two seconds after birth.)

Beside that.. you can't push people to play a life he wouldn't want. The best way to work is with watching to the preferences/when someone /dies or run away. With that I mean this:
- Player A is not keen on playing as boy. If player A suicide by running/die-in enough the game would "learn" that and give him more chance to be a Girl in first change (So that he don't need to suicide.)
- Player B hates to be born in Eve-camps so as Eve or eve-kid. The game learns that and won't let player B born here. Or at least, far less. (So, player B would be born as gen 4 at least.)
- Player C hates the city with lots of people. Meaning that he will be more likely to be born in an Eve-camp or as eve's kids, because that's where he stays.
- Player D playes everywhere, always. Player D won't get a special role, but will be born in the cases where players A, B and C became less likely to be born.

^This is ofcourse not what the game stands for. The game stand for playing in whatever setting and whatever role (You will be born randomly), but it can work. If the different types go together, that means that there will be far less /die-ing, running or griefing by annoyed players (Because they are where they want to be.) and more cities surviving because they get people who wants to play there.

I /die when there's much woman/girls (say 4/4)
I /die when it's a big city with two families and/or which the other seems large, but mine seems small (less than say 3/3 mine, if I see at least five woman/girls from the other family, im gone.)
I do /die when I see there are lots of kids and almost no food. (Not as eve's gen, but later gen.)
I almost always run to die if I'm a boy, until there is something for what I stay. (Today as Max Leaf as example.)
I /die if there are lots of killings or someone is threatening me
I /die if theres a famine coming but nobody is caring (there is a large field of say berries and nobody cares for them/someone waters all the carrots and there's already ten stacks of them/there are five or more carrots seeding because nobody cared for it or there is almost no food but someone keeps all her kids, who when they are three die because no food)

I don't die if there are say 3 or less girls/woman and I'm a girl
I don't /die but run to change my gender if I wanna stay in that lineage, just not as my gender
I don't /die in Eve camps if there is not much food (because, after all, it's an Eve.)

Shawn is just sad he wasn't by the Banging Foursome

I have no idea why, but I'm waiting too lol. I'm off to bed now, so maybe its better to make it a trio again?

-Stacie out

That's the real problem, I said before. Not the fact that this shortcut exist, but the reason WHY it exist.. the /die isn't working optimal and it punishes people. A /die with an option to then choose "I don't want this lineage" would be better, because then 1. the mom don't get birth cooldown and 2. a person using /die isn't punished by getting out of a lineage (a reason I for one use it). A /die who you can use WITHOUT BEING IN YOUR MOMS ARMS UNDER ZERO is an option, because then this shortcut wasn't needed. But /die works on very, very specific ways and thats why this shortcut is there in the first place. Because people had asked for it, because /die didn’t work.

I don't WANT players to be on a birth cooldown and I DO care about that, but on the other hand, I want to die without being in my moms arms and older than 0 too! And I'm one of the players using it THAT way. Screaming about us for using it is a way to say we are bad. But that the game lacks the function to die on this way, isn't our fault, is it? I mean, if we could die without much fuss, we wouldn't NEED this shortcut!

I’m not the fighter for this shortcut, but I am using it. For the reasons I told earlier, for the reasons I told here. And I really don’t like to be told that I’m not caring for people, I care, but I do care more about my time and how I want to play it. If /die worked how it should (Not specific, not being 0, not being in your moms arms AND not being an immediate a lineage ban) I would use that instead. But I can’t. So I use this shortcut. If people get a birth cooldown for that I'm very sorry, but if the /die was wider that wouldn't also be needed!

Edit: that being said, I hate the fact that the Yum-bonus gives your more chance on a baby. Just spread them evenly..

I do understand the difference between those two things. I know that I with the exploit can:
- Kill myself right away if my mom won't pick me up, instead of running around trying to die fast
- Kill myself when my internet/computer is too slow to load so when I come into the game, I'm already one and can't just use /die
- Kill myself when- because of that laggy internet/pc- my mom already runned further and I'm all alone/fed by another family member and just can't /die because that person isn't my mother
- Kill myself quickly as Eve, if I see that I spawn without water in the aree for at least fourhundred blocks
- Kill myself quickly as Eve, instead of trying to get eaten by a bear, wolf, mosquito, boar or snake if I don't want to be an Eve
- Kill myself if I'm a boy with an almost-old Eve who don't have any living girls, in the hope I can give her that girl
- Kill myself right away if I see that there are ten fertile woman and twelve girls alive and I'm a girl (I'm not even kidding, it happened before.)
- Don't get a lineage ban if I do that, because if I want a lineage ban I would do /die

I know it's unfair to other people, but on the other hand, it's also unfair that all those things CANNOT do without this exploit. It's my opinion that we ALL should have the option to choose when we die and why. So that this "exploit" wouldn't exist. It wouldn't need to exist. But in the state of the game, it now NEEDS to exist. Because the very limited way where /die works. Because of the people running around dying on everything they can because they wouldn't live there by choice, or start griefing. Do you understand that?