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ok ... now introduce the JOBS TABLE to the village, so every player present can know what is needed for the settlement not only to barely survive but to develop

a JOBS TABLE working like this :
a jobs table has to be crafted
it's a wall, board, panel to pin job openings on it
it should be placed middle in the village, where every job seeking player/citizen can look up what jobs are open
those who can work a tool & are skilled enough (level) to actually do something useful with that tool know best if there are still people needed in the profession, like making compost or baking pies
those can post open jobs at that table
by taking up a job opening, the note disappears from the table

would improve the communication, responsibility & cooperation
& that's what's badly missing
& nobody can kill anybody with that table
that's an additional plus

btw
that tool learning sounds similar to the professions i suggested over a year ago ... so ... maybe the game moves in the right direction

but i'm still far from being convinced to come back
i moved even further away from the game
there is still not enough good life in it to waste my RL with
the potential vanished by now & made space for chore & punishment of those who dare to play it

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why 100 players tops is accepted as a sufficient number of players ?

this game is out now over 1.5 years, it didn't manage in that time frame to accumulate a substantial number of core players, it's not even 50
over the course of those 1.5 years i've seen many who were VERY active & VERY excited & VERY positive about the gameplay before an update, then throwing in the towel after they fought for a while for what they have lost
this game managed in those 1.5 years to literally shed players, instead to accumulate them

the way how this game is being developed is even worse than super early access games & i've been through several meantime
there is no road map, so nobody knows what the general destination is or not even what the next destination is, probably not even holy Jason Rohrer
since i am playing also several mobile games so i am used to regular gameplay changing updates, but what the updates of OHOL managed is to literally EXCHANGE the gameplay from a comfy builder to wonky PvP

the biggest issue i have meantime with the game is how it is advertized & that its actual gameplay is in NO WAY what was & still is advertized
the ads are for a game which is not present

the game might be somewhat interesting to a newbee still but the novelty will fade away quickly because there is no deeper gameplay included
the whole thing falls apart & the griefer situation surely doesn't help
changes like the rift or the fences are not increasing the value of gameplay, they are some wonky ideas to an unknown future end

the main thing i am waiting for is
sort a value to life in OHOL, so far to live in OHOL is just a grinding chore, no player will ever see that as appealing

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you can define griefing as you like but one thing should be clear to that meager rest of people who are still bothering to log on to play OHOL

this game had from the get go a severe griefer problem
not only the majority of updates endorsed griefing but the whole set up of the game is based on the two fronts
AGGRESSIVE GRIEFERS AGAINST PEACEFUL PLAYERS
it's not by design but it does nothing to adress that fundamental issue
i wrote about that issue already over a year ago, lol

& as of now, to me it seems
GRIEFERS WON

the low number of players speaks for itself
because those once interested in the idea of the game are either struggling as a microscopic group or are just gone

the only question remains - how long for holy Jason Rohrer to keep the severs running for that handful of players ?
cause the big hope that came with Steam that there will be a bigger number of players vanished faster than those players before
i've been playing this game since april 2018
my original entusiasm came by & by to a grinding halt, my excitement about what was promissed in the trailers, what i saw in the screenshots & what holy Jason Rohrer promissed repeadedly in his posts was sobered by being killed for no reason whatsoever than just griefing fun & because the player just could kill me without any repercussions at that time & to this day the "punishment" for griefing changed a lot but the gameplay still caters to griefers more than to any other player & is still way more attractive to play it destructively than to play it constructively

the most glaring indicator about OHOL's griefing problem should be the simple lack of discussions going on here in the official forums about
BUILDING CIVILIZATION
&
PARENTING

but there are numerous threads posted since i've been playing about killers & griefing

it pains me more than anything else to give up on yet another unique idea for a game, which just falters because the dev just doesn't seem to have a clue what's going on with the decling number of players although many people before they went away have stated what is driving them away

but well
maybe i was just mistaken & this project was DOA, a still born child from its very beginning
makes me just sad, because i had several very pleasant experiences in this game but it all is drowned in a sea of the unpleasant
& afaik there are no players who stay when the gameplay is unpleasant

& yes, you can say that if the gameplay is unpleasant then i should stop playing, i wrote that myself to those first players i encountered leaving after the decay update, but i have to admit, back then i didn't realise that this is not a singular occurance of disgruntled customers & that they are not just the wrong players for OHOL, those players were lured in with false ads & were playing a game never intended to exist but they were there & they were brushed aside without even rethinking what is going on
& while this occurance was my first about people extremely unhappy with the changes made it was by far not the last
the changes made to gameplay all drove players away, again & again & again
& as i see it, there were no changes made that would bring new players in or even better, there were no changes made that would bring players who went away back to playing OHOL & stay & enjoy playing it & praise the changes as fundamental improvements!!!
so something is fundamentally wrong here !

i wrote already in the thread asking what's OHOL's biggest issue, that it's its VISION
i am meantime absolutely confused about what the vision for OHOL is, because the most glaring problems which prevent me from playing are still there while just a tiny portion of what would make me playing again was realised
in short
the stress i started to encounter since i was killed for the first time while playing OHOL remained overwhelming while the joy to play was always vanishingly small
& this is not a formula for a succesful game
i'd say, those players who are not playing anymore see it in a similar way
& the numbers don't lie, looks like the number of players willing to put themselves through OHOL's gameplay is miniscule

so either the way how this game is presented to customers has to align with how this game is being actually played by those players still present
or
the gameplay has significantly to align with the ads & OHOL's presentation

as of now OHOL is an unbalanced extreme niche project
nothing else

it also pains me to admit
my expectations ragarding holy Jason Rohrer seem to have been very wrong
i believed him as he stated that he wanted to make OHOL as successful as Minecraft, yes, there was a time where he wanted to do that but then after the griefers just took over the gameplay he switched to Rust, lol
yeah
he just should align the ads for OHOL to that & just stop pretending that this game is about "building civilization & parenting", cause so far, since 1.5 years IT'S NOT
it's at best about the constant struggles against griefing, lol

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you wrote that only to have it mirrored to what i wrote, you didn't even think before you wrote

there is no easy one hit kill option in life, in real life
not every attack IRL with a knife or any other sort of a weapon is deadly

eg, i made a long time ago a suggestion to change the easy 100% one hit kill in OHOL to a random chance & a backfiring chance
oc nobody was interested & holy Jason Rohrer won't change that at all

just admit it, you are sitting on the high horse
i am off the OHOL horse & doesn't look like i will be back again

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you miss the mark of this thread with your remark

you can have your convenient overview mods* but don't come whining about griefers

*convenient overview mods
1. zoom
2. info about gender, fertility & whatnot reducing co-players to numbers

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i have a better idea, i build in Cities:Skylines instead, cause the community of CS is not an apologetic, murderous & insulting bunch

i am not even trying anymore to play, cause there is just NOTHING in the game which would tell me that i with my need for a peaceful cooperative way to play am welcome & will be rewarded in any way by the gameplay itself & not forced to deal with some prick on a spree in his pause between playing Fortnite, CS:GO, League of Legends or Rust

all that happens when the dev is not fond of constructive gameplay but thinks that destructive one will bring forth lots of players who all of sudden will cooperate to "build civilization & parent"

& where is the goddam baby sling for starters ?

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well ... maybe that's an idea

you need to gain skill first before you're able to kill !!!

i still think
OHOL would profit as gameplay with an introduction of profession
even if that profession is the job of a killer
... or a warrior

here my over a year old suggestion about professions

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the war sword aside, which is solely created to kill with & nothing else
but most of the ways to grief comes from bottlenecks, like that Juniper tree cutting, because so many things crafted depend on this one object, or milkweed, a year ago it was berry bushes
alternatives to do things are always a good way to circumvent griefing & in the end to discourage it, because it gets just lame instead of a drama

& healing, i still would like to be able to heal myself & even to prevent being fatally injured at all, that's to me what civilized people are able to do & not being forced to depend on others mercy & skill

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it sounds like something i suggested already months ago here

i really hope this will be included, cause it WILL FINALLY PUT POWER INTO HANDS OF NON-GRIEFERS !!!

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i am saying what OP said

every player NOT USING zoom mods is only a peaceful player
BECAUSE
it's hard to grief without

but
this discussion is going on now for over a year & both of the suggested solutions were EVERY SINGLE TIME shot down

so

this discussion is MUTE & FUTILE

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OHOL needs LAW

but oops ... suggestions are not allowed & not welcome

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because OHOL offers a very unique idea - a multiplayer, true multiplayer, not coop, where people simulate life together as society
& Jason Rohrer just throws weapons into that sooner than he cares to add tools & options needed to organize civil life
civil as opposite to military
civil means peaceful >>> Civility
peace is the basis of civilization
every society ridden with violence, war, unrest, danger collapses as peaceful people flee, exactly what is hapenning since over half a year now with OHOL - most of the peaceful builders, most of the female players, most of the simulation players fled already, update after update, me included

why i am salty ?
because the game about civilization is dying & its father, Jason Rohrer is killing it systematically, io to twist it into a game about conflict, fears & phobias
i think meantime, after a year of struggle this game is in its final convulsions, there is nothing more left to build civilization in this game, because Jason Rohrer burned through all the players interested in this kind of game, who are potentially willing to put up with what it delivers

& i am salty because this gem of an idea is thrown out io to be replaced by the usual fighting stuff i can find in 99% of games, lol
multiplayers included, the majority of players just love to fight & kill, throwing OHOL under the bus of that majority is not going to increase OHOL'S player base, this game is mediocre at best as a fighting game, while its most precious content, this unique idea of a social multiplayer building game is shoved aside, is reduced to be just the prelude to the "actual game", to kill each other, lol
this game is now only good enough to make such a cut video as OP showed, a youtuber makes a video & moves on to play something else, lol

lol, what irony !

no idea what's your idea about "civilization", mine & the overwhelming majority's of humans doesn't include to build & craft only io to fight, kill, murder & go to war as the final & highest goal

the main focus of OHOL is not building, it's building & crafting io to make war, kill & destroy
building, crafting, being female & having babies is JUST means to another end - TO KILL

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