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#1 Re: Main Forum » Basic courtesy for the developer » 2022-03-15 11:38:50

Laggy wrote:

I have to admit, I think the one catchiest part of ohol is the different races. I think the best content update would be adding another race. I vote Asians and they could access another biome with silk and gunpowder.

Gunpowder is a compound comprised of carbon, sulfur, and potassium nitrate. A source of niter is what we'd need.

It occurs in arid regions - because the mineral is water-soluble - so it would show up in the desert most frequently.

It also occurs in caves, so a possible use for bears after all?

We could also refine it from manure... although that's pretty low-yield.

#2 Re: Main Forum » Trade Lacking Because Characters Too Equal, Including Men and Women » 2021-12-22 04:55:35

DestinyCall wrote:
Spoonwood wrote:

Non-functional boobs would be something more like breasts with cancer.  And though I wanted to agree initially, I'm not so sure that it's ok to have non-functional boobs.  I guess if there were breasts that had neither benefit nor any serious drawbacks, that would be o.k. but I'm not so sure that such hypothetically exactly neutral breasts exist.

If anyone ever wonders why I bother to engage in conversation with Spoonwood, even though I know he is just going to argue in endless circles, this is the answer.  This beautiful gem of flawless reasoning makes it worth all the annoyance and frustration it took to reach this point.


Heehee ... hypothetically exactly neutral breasts.   Yes indeed.

Why am I now imagining a physics problem that begins with "Assume two perfectly spherical breasts of 1 kg mass each, at standard temperature and pressure..."?

#3 Re: Main Forum » The story of the treachery and a dying fam » 2021-04-20 22:08:25

Gremlynn wrote:

Typical story of ohol. Its depressing but things are more often like this than they are not. Its also not surprising people were siding on the family consider planting trees and "gravekeeping" were  the highlighted profession in this story.

Dont feel bad, males are disposable after all, so removing one only increases spawn weight for you family.

Most experienced players play with a strong sense of bias. Often outing to resume a project they had started in lives past, check in on a family they're invested in, or pick a family of the race they wish to play as.

It is what it is.

Eventually you will grow hardened to these elements and feel next to nothing when it happens. Depressing as it is its the way of the game.

A tale so full of crime
A life ever so brief
A story told in rhyme
A once upon a time
Anger and the grief


... eh, thought that was going somewhere. The muse is fickle.

#4 Re: Main Forum » How to install OHOL » 2021-04-18 11:54:26

Quoteifugly wrote:
PunkyFickle wrote:

Make sure to keep your serial number somewhere, though. There is no Steam to remember it for you. It will be displayed on the confirmation e-mail and on your purchase confirmation and looks like XXXXX-XXXXX-XXXXX-XXXXX.

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??? its on steam what are you talking about

Dude. Seriously. Look at the date stamps on these posts. They're two and a half years old. The game has changed SIGNIFICANTLY since that time.

These posts are from before the game was on Steam. You're talking to someone who probably doesn't even play anymore.

Please pay attention and stop necroing threads to add irrelevancies.

#5 Re: Main Forum » From A to Z » 2021-04-15 11:13:49

DestinyCall wrote:

Z is obviously better.  It is 26 times more powerful than A.

Exactly. It's why it is used so rarely.

#6 Re: Main Forum » Why so distant? - about game difficulty » 2021-04-14 02:07:48

sigmen4020 wrote:
DiscardedSlinky wrote:

boot

The boots indicate an unwillingness to even try to think about things.

After all, those boots were made for walking... not thinking.

#7 Re: Main Forum » Another status update » 2021-02-04 03:27:01

Spoonwood wrote:
Twisted wrote:

I bet he also pooped. There is no way he went an entire week without pooping, which means HE IS LYING TO US WAKE UP SHEEPLE.

Alright, that's the conclusion you want to draw.

Twisted wrote:

Thank you, Mr. Spoonwood, for uncovering Mr. Rohrer's vile ruse, we are forever in your debt. I can't believe that monster would actually dare poop and then lie to us about it...

"Vile ruse" is a term you've used Twisted not me.  "Lie" is also a term you've used, not me.

Again, 8 tweets got posted a day by Mr. Rohrer before Mr. Rohrer said that he was spending "... all day, each day, doing ..." housework.

The ellipsis is deceptive, Spoonwood. He said he spent "pretty much all day, every day, doing...". The qualifier is important, and leaving it off your quote is disingenuous.

Since he only spent 'pretty much all day', 8 tweets isn't excessive or out of the norm. You're trying to split hairs where there are none to split.

#8 Re: Main Forum » make meme score more memey! » 2021-01-28 12:01:09

Cogito wrote:
TheRubyCart wrote:

Ok but, what about people who use the censor nudity mod, like twisted, it would make it impossible for this system to work with that, maybe something else aswell as that could work?

Change their head size.

You can find the griefers by looking for all the kids whose mothers were infected by Zika virus.

This actually makes me realise there is a problem with this system - every new player starts with a score of 0. You'd have to do something like apply the 'new player' modifier for food, to give newbies normal sized heads that shrink over generations if they don't get their score up.

I don't know if this would serve as a deterrent. Some people like a little head...

#9 Re: Main Forum » If you split your family you are killing those you left behind. » 2021-01-11 20:33:17

DestinyCall wrote:

There must be a solution.   

Have you tried building TWO property fences?   One to keep griefers out and the other to keep babies in.

*starts planting fuschia to take advantage of the shade*

#10 Re: Main Forum » dumb game for dumb people » 2020-12-25 12:21:02

Spoonwood wrote:
WumboJumbo wrote:

The game would be better if murder/weapons didn't exist. How about removing the ability to die too? We should be able to live forever and maximize playtime! There should be no challenges! This game needs to feel fun again! /s

Bears aren't a challenge that the game provides, since bears don't roam free.  This game also isn't about making it so that pixels are inactive with respect to players.  You didn't state a counterargument here and I don't believe you have a counterargument here also.  You almost surely speak sarcastically, because it upsets you to imagine that it would be more likely for players to survive longer, and you don't want them to survive longer.  The game is a multiplayer survival game.  That implies that the spirit of the game involves playing for players to survive for as long as they can.  The game is hollow at its core without such a spirit.

Bears only pose a problem, because someone did NOT want other players to survive or their own self to survive.  In other words, bears signal people not playing for survival reasons.  They also don't reflect anything family like perhaps killing oneself because one's parent died would reflect.  If the game had a solid core, it would not encourage players to kill their self via a bear or to kill other players via bears.  Or it would have a way that works such that bears could enhance players survival prospects *by them getting released from their dens* in general, like bearskin based clothing to decrease pip drain rate of players, or edible bear meat.

Spoon, he quite literally tagged it as sarcasm. That's what the '/s' at the end is, a 'closing tag' for the sarcastic words that precede them. Like so:

<sarcasm>If only there were a way in text to indicate when someone was speaking non-literally!</s>

He just left off the opening tag, assuming it would be understood by implication.

While I normally don't have an issue with your extremely precise attention to language, in this case you're simply in the wrong to try and call out Wumbo Jumbo. There's no need for a detailed takedown of sarcasm - just enjoy it when it occurs.

#11 Re: Main Forum » RIP spoonwood » 2020-12-10 13:23:49

DestinyCall wrote:
Spoonwood wrote:
DiscardedSlinky wrote:

Spoonwood you can't comment on this thread you're dead

I already did comment on the thread.  I can still comment here.  Therefore, I can comment.

But dead people can't talk.   This makes no sense.

I am shook.

Next update - Zombie Family: confirmed!

#12 Re: Main Forum » OneHourOneUnlife » 2020-10-24 00:25:48

DestinyCall wrote:
antking:]# wrote:
DestinyCall wrote:

New object ... cow hooves (for gelatin)

when you kill a cow instead of a body you just end up with just a hoof on the ground

For some reason I was expecting to get four hooves.

You'd have be in the cattle biome family for that.

#13 Re: Main Forum » Racists are harming their own race » 2020-09-25 21:08:51

Arcurus wrote:

lol, everything that comes, spoon always breaks down to fathers, dodge to a limited world and i? maybe to get rid of family iron smile

Yea i also thought that posse is still in place, so the one with more allies could just kill the one with less...

Hmm maybe for me it always comes down to have more again single skilled based combat smile

You mean Tarr's Griefer Dance? It's funny that Jason didn't leave that in, given his insistence upon griefing being necessary for drama.

#14 Re: Main Forum » Abuse by Griefers » 2020-09-24 12:54:42

JonySky wrote:

The problem is that a clear answer has never been obtained from Jason for griefers, assassins or toxic players and we do not know if these players are welcome or not welcome in OHOL

Jason thinks that 'griefer' is an important role in the village. I expect there will *never* be a strong mechanic for preventing griefing.

Seriously, though, that's a *stupid* concept. It's like saying that poker needs cheaters at every table. Griefers *don't care* about the village, their family, or anything in game except getting a rise out of other players. Why should that be rewarded?

The solution to grief-cursing is to limit the range of curses to 'within earshot' (basically the map chunk you're on). If your target is outside that area, you get a ping message saying 'no target found' and your curse token remains available. Simple, easy, expedient... and you can't curse someone just because you know they're streaming (unless you happen to be in their area).

'Antagonist' is a role that is needed for drama, but relying on griefers to do that is like using dynamite to clean your sink.

#15 Re: Main Forum » Something that bothers me » 2020-09-23 21:53:50

DestinyCall wrote:

I'd be totally fine with logical dead-ends.   As you say, life is full of those.  And realistic deadends are intuitive.

Not being able to eat dog meat?   I'm okay with that.   Same with horses.  Technically, they are made of meat, but we don't eat them around here and I don't need them to be edible in game.

How culturally isolationist of you. Many people eat those meats on a regular basis. I mean, I love dogs and horses, they're beautiful animals. But so is a cow... and they're awfully tasty. Maybe dog is too.

And in a situation where it's 'eat or die'... I'm gonna eat anything I can to live.

Not being able to eat cows?   Not even being able to KILL cows?   WHY!?

Confirmed... Jason is a secret Hindu.

...

I know, it's such a betrayal. wink

It is the dumb or illogical stuff that really goads me.   There's a lot of inconsistency in OHOL.  Stuff that is unintuitive and strange, stuff that is anachronistic and out-of-place.    When I first started playing this game, I was impressed by the "realistic" crafting.  It took a bit to get used to the way crafting worked, but it had a certain logic once I learned a few things.  But the more I play, the more things I found that just don't make any sense, in game or in reality.   Some of it is just silly, like how animals reproduce, but other stuff is seriously annoying, like how shovels break before any other tool.   I'd like to see more work on the lower end of the tech tree to smooth out some of the rough edges and make the game feel more polished.   Right now, it feels cobbled together from a lot of disconnected parts ... because it is.

It's a social experiment! (The experiment is to see how many will ride this train straight into Hell...)

#16 Re: Main Forum » "Bless You" - Bizarro Curse » 2020-07-04 11:49:41

Lum wrote:

Blessings have been asked for for months if not years. If it didn't happen then, I doubt it will happen now.

Definitely years. People were asking for them when I joined, and it hasn't stopped since. But Jason doesn't like 'magic' in his game (unless he thinks of it first).

#17 Re: Main Forum » For Jason. » 2020-05-30 00:20:17

Spoonwood wrote:
AmberA wrote:

If this was my game, I'd add achievements, that would add so much for us to do and scenarios to play through. You could even crowd source what the achievements are.

They work.  People play Oxygen Not Included a fair amount of the time for in-game achievements.

Working on Locavore in my current game... as well as Super Sustainable. Might try to sneak Carnivore in there if I ever get a researcher leveled up so I can get the ranching equipment.

#18 Re: Main Forum » Whites are Babelfish » 2020-05-03 12:54:57

DestinyCall wrote:

Does that mean that the existence of Whites prove Jason does not exist?

Sadly, paradox has no effect on Jason. Why that is I'll leave as an exercise for your imagination.

#19 Re: Main Forum » Jason, what's OUR motivation » 2020-04-30 11:33:55

Spoonwood wrote:
Crumpaloo wrote:
jasonrohrer wrote:

Eve Kirk had 3 bb:

http://lineage.onehouronelife.com/serve … id=6168618

Eve Mary had 4 bb:

http://lineage.onehouronelife.com/serve … id=6170468


Eve Bieber had 5 bb:

http://lineage.onehouronelife.com/serve … id=6170808


This one had 7 bb, which is a lot, but most of them died young:

http://lineage.onehouronelife.com/serve … id=6169243


Can you find an example of another Eve who was completely overwhelmed, and I'll check the logs and see what's going on.  Please email to me:

jasonrohrer AT fastmail DOT fm

Heres a life where my town was in a famine, and while escaping to find food i had a total of 33 babies! All of whom starved to death because i could not afford to feed them. From a genetic fitness perspective, i would of been better off letting myself starve like everyone else, at-least then the only bad score id get would be from my own.

http://lineage.onehouronelife.com/serve … id=6154669

Your link doesn't work at present.

Corrected link. http://lineage.onehouronelife.com/serve … id=6154669

#20 Re: Main Forum » Suggestion: Fixing Bears » 2020-04-25 00:38:54

testo wrote:

Just stand still over an object lol, ez.

... no? Jason changed that. Standing on a tile with an object no longer protects you from animal attacks.

#21 Re: Main Forum » Constantly Starving is Bad Game Design » 2020-04-18 17:47:49

Caprys wrote:

It gets even better when you spawn in as an eve and your whole surrounding is already wiped clean of any food.

Did that once, long before any of these updates. Spent 3ish minutes running along the edge of a desert, looking for food of *any* kind. Didn't see so much as a cactus. I probably shouldn't have touched that monument.

Sorry for the diversion... now back to your regularly scheduled discussion. smile

#22 Re: Main Forum » Heat » 2020-04-08 14:56:49

DestinyCall wrote:
voy178 wrote:
Legs wrote:

Controversial opinion: smithing should be hungry work.

I think that walking should be hungry work.

I think that eating should be hungry work.

That'll take a bite out of surplus food!

#23 Re: Main Forum » Remember that time that Jason starved us for an hour? » 2020-04-01 04:11:52

x_Raiema_x wrote:
jasonrohrer wrote:

Yeah, I thought it might be that.... that's a bug!

Would be nicer if it was people's selfless humanity shining through, though.


even then, when i wander into the wilderness I make it a point to never eat ALL the wild food available, should I or another player come to the situation where they run out of food. Nothing worse than dying next to an empty berry bush

Dying next to a full berry bush?

#24 Re: Main Forum » It is I! Aurora! » 2020-03-17 21:45:21

Aurora Aurora wrote:

THAT IS ALL
YOU ARE DISMISSED

YOU'RE NOT THE BOSS OF ME!

But I guess I really don't want to stay, anyway, so... yeah.

(WB Aurora!)

#25 Re: Main Forum » Problem: Consistent Decreasing Diversity in Surrounding Environments » 2020-03-09 01:14:16

DestinyCall wrote:
sigmen4020 wrote:

You can make everything a problem if you try hard enough.

I think that you just describe the meaning of Life.

But he didn't mention any of the Pythons or even the plot!

Ah well. Words to live by, indeed.

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