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*facepalm* Still thinking so short sighted. Progress takes time, not going to see it the next day. And being reborn to a place and restarting your work, that isn't fixing the problem, that's just a band-aid solution.
Anyway, I don't agree. I was taught to smith in-game by a very patient man, it was great and I am very thankful for it. He showed me how to make a bellows, how to make charcoal and then how to smelt iron and how to make a crucible and make tools. All from scratch, I helped him gather the basic materials we'd need as we already had a kiln. So you very much can teach kids to smith in-game.
I'm not interested in using my non-playing time to study recipes and strategies, I barely have the time to play as it is. Learning in-game is more intuitive than reading about it(though it could still probably be more intuitive), especially if you're lucky enough to have someone willing to teach you. I'd say almost 99% of what I know, I learnt in-game from strangers or from messing around myself. I take lessons I learnt from my mothers and aunts and uncles and build upon that, but only because they took the time to teach me how to survive. I still remember the Eves that taught me to look for berries and other wild foods, and how important it is to mentally map them out for emergencies.
@pein
That's exactly what I have been saying, you are so focused on the whole that you neglect inexperienced players, then get annoyed or frustrated at them for not knowing basic shit. You need more patience, and more long term thinking. If we start caring more for inexperienced players and teaching them even the most basic and banal things, then the average skill increases for everyone and you are less likely to have a "useless" baby. In a way, you yourself are being a bit lazy in a way by relying on other players to teach these new players for you so you don't have to. I know that's a stretch, but since that is a large part of the game, I think it's applicable.
You seem to pat yourself on the back a lot for how much you know and how easy to can do X or Y too... In the end, nothing you do will matter if you don't leave anyone with the skills to keep it going. Because once you are gone, you will have to rely on those you left behind to carry on, and if you didn't bother with them because they aren't pro enough, then that village will probably die out sooner than later.
Steven Wulff, why would you do this?
http://lineage.onehouronelife.com/serve … l_id=52713
You murdered me and then 3 of your siblings, so disappointing.
I'm sorry to my other children, some people are just jerks who can only find enjoyment in creating misery for other people.
I get pretty attached to most of my kids, always a tearful goodbye or upsetting when I see one die. The more I care about my children, the harder some of them seem to work and often they come by to see how I am doing and that's nice.
i dont really care about if they survive. im not really into relations, more into helping people who seem experienced.
Your whole post really, but that part stood out to me. Helping experienced players doesn't reallu help anyone... because they aren't the one in need of help... In other posts I've seen you whinge about people not working or contributing, but to be fair, players like you may be contributing to the lack of experienced players.
Nameless cousin, you almost single-handedly took care of the carrot farm.
I was Ariel Sol. You fed me when my mother ran off and briefly forgot about me, so I helped you farm my whole life.
You even made me a wolf hat which was very nice of you, thank you very much. What happened to you? After I had my last daughter, you went off and never returned? I went looking for you a few times but I didn't find anything. I was very sad I never got to say goodbye.
I died keeping warm on the fire, surrounded by my children and grandchildren and great-grandchildren. It's very heart-warming to see you all express your love and disappointment as I'm leaving. I hope you all live long happy lives.
"Hi I refuse to play the game how it is intended to be played and somehow it makes me mad"
XD Pretty much.
Yeah, when you are an experienced player. As a new player, it seems quite intimidating and frantic. Especially if other players aren't helping you out.
A lot of your stories, pein involve you killing people... interesting...
Anyway, yeah, OP. The game can be very daunting and intimidating at first. It can be really frustrating when no one has the time to teach you things but everyone expects you to know anyway. I too thought the point of the game was teaching other players, but most people are too concerned with their precious projects and activities. I have even had some players just tell me to look at the wiki, but where is the fun in that...
I try my best to teach my kids things when I'm an Eve, but usually we need to be constantly working to make sure there is food. My problem is I don't usually know what to start with. Baskets are good, and teaching kids to farm makes things easier for everyone, but you need so many other things. My proudest moment was teaching my kid how to make a fire from scratch and then seeing them do it much later with no real problems. But I was lucky then, this was when things were a bit easier and I wasn't have a baby every minute. So I didn't feel as rushed and constantly starved.
Had the most romantic marriage proposal. A lady wearing a crown named Moon ran up to me and said "Hey, wanna get married?" I replied "Sure"
I hunted soooo many rabbits for this town. I came back and my lovely wife told me we need to have kids, and eventually we did. She named her Petal, I went out of my way to make her a sealskin coat and some pants. I was happy to see we had a grandson before I died.
I made it to 60, as everyone was thanking me and saying their good byes. I told my wife I loved her and ran over to her to die on her square.
Hope you guys survived a long time.
I have seen several people abandon babies or refuse to feed any that admitted they were new. It was a bit awful. Sometimes I adopt them and try my best to help them, sometimes people try and kill me because of it. Jerks.
I feel like the problem is a lot of them are scared of being abandoned or killed for being new and "useless" so they say they aren't. I had a couple of kids I asked and they said no, but then I kept telling them it was ok if they were because I can teach them things and some eventually admitted to being new. Says a lot about their previous experiences with other players.
Sounds similar to a camp I was in last night. I ended up taking over the farm and eventually making a bigger berry farm. I watched some guy teach a guy how to make pies and do sheep stuff. I went to make more compost but I didn't know how to make sheep poop, and generally stay away from sheep because shepherds are crazy. The population dwindled until eventually my niece had two kids, looked like it was going to be ok. After the two other males died, I made a shit-tonne more pies.
Only thing that annoyed me about that camp, was that people kept ignoring me when I would ask if we had X or Y, too busy with their own shit.
I never abandon kids. I won't chase you if you run off though. Even as an Eve I will raise every baby. I can usually start a camp, but I then rely on my children to get it going and expand it while I'm raising more kids, usually run off a bit further so there are still plenty of natural berries around camp. It usually works well except for when you have too many new players. I try and teach but they never remember to keep food on them when exploring.
If a town tells me to abandon or kill my children, I will often just leave that place, sometimes temporarily, sometimes permanently. Been a few times where I was like "Fuck this place, come on, kids. Let's make our own town, with blackjack and hookers".
Aww, I'm really sad that she got you too
Thank you for trying to avenge me, I'm glad someone got her before she could kill anyone else.
We didn't have a last name unfortunately, but we had a town sign "FUCK" XD
My mother, Lulu. You were very nice, you took over as baker and I went off to farm. Our carrot farm was only 3 plots despite this large town. I kept the farm going, and with the help of some family, such as Ariel my cousin, we grew that farm much bigger. Some other family members often stopped by asking if I needed help and getting me more soil and water. We had a large berry farm, large sheep pen with lots of sheep. Everyone was friendly and helpful and I miss you all.
My grandmother passed down her backpack with a knife, telling me it was my turn to keep it safe. I accepted and kept farming.
I wasn't having any children and I found that a bit concerning. I had been of age for quite some time. Then eventually I had two daughters within seconds of each other. Summer and Spring. I'm sorry I wasn't able to spend more time with you, but you guys got straight to work and ran off, very proud.
Unfortunately, my life was prematurely cut short but one of my cousins. She shot me. Spring, I couldn't get my knife out, but I hope you were able to get it quickly enough to avenge me and keep the town safe. I loved you all.
I mean, the only rules here are the rules Jason makes up really, could easily use any silly justification for a large animal like a mammoth or hairy evolved elephant.
So you can't have it your own way so you kill everyone.....awesome!
It's sort of amazing and sad how many people are like this. So murder-happy. Like an itch that constantly needs scratching and any excuse will do.
Woolly mammoths and stone spears would be excellent. Would need a couple men to surround it so it can't run, then a few spears to kill it. All that meat and fur would be nice.
We could be living in a future where we brought back mammoths from extinction. Easy.
I think it could be true. It explains the amount of Eve abandonment, but also the lack of care or teaching because these people feel that there simply isn't time. So in that case some kids might grow up with a chip on their shoulder and feel unwelcome. Still a large step to murder but they are probably bored and unloved. Once your camp is a bit rich it becomes easier to make/get weapons to kill someone, otherwise all you can really do is abandon babies as a way to kill anyone.
Seems like you can't really win. I often get born into towns which start off ok but almost always devolve into murder because seems like a lot of players are either griefers or think people should be killed for slighting them even a little. Or I start as an Eve and all my children die because they can't feed themselves despite the plethora of food around. Or I just get abandoned by Eves several times in a row because they are being a bit selfish or are not experienced enough to care for children and set up a camp(But how will you get that experience if you never try? )
The first couple of weeks were pretty lovely. I almost never got abandoned and everyone was really nice. Players were more patient and everyone seemed eager to teach me stuff I didn't know.
Oh boy.
Morti, I fully agree with that whole thing, I think we play very similarly. I will keep babies alive even if it means I myself starve. Sometimes I'm too slow and don't make it back in time to feed, and I'm very sorry to those babies, I really am.
It is a bit annoying having to "wake up" the local rabbit and cactus populations but it is a must and better to get out of the way as quickly as possible. The satellite camp is a great idea, maybe once you've established a good food source(like got your carrot farm running) you could start sending your children off in each direction, asking them to set up smaller back up settlements which eventually may grow into bigger main settlements, and then keep repeating.
As for the topic, I was spawned into a dead settlement today and repopulated it. One of my daughters confessed to killing a town under similar circumstances as the OP, she said they were abandoning babies and she wasn't going to stand for it. She asked for my forgiveness and I gave it to her, telling her I believe every player should have the chance to live.
I never said you have to leave, I suggested it, since you are clearly not enjoying the game. It's what any reasonable person would do...
You're having a tantrum and taking it out on other players, most of which probably don't deserve it.
And you're not going to stop, can you at least stop using ampersands in place of 'and'?
Obviously 90% was hyperbole.
There is no difference, suicide is suicide. I've read your other post, you're just being a whiny baby. Protesting by suicide, you're just as bad as the griefers that kill people claiming it's also in some sort of protest. All you're doing is annoying other players. If you are unhappy with the game, then do us all a favour and play something else.
Seems like 90% of what you do is suicide, so yeah... not really sure what you expect to happen.
The first life I have, that loading screen always takes much longer. That's usually fine if you're a baby, you can afford to be afk for a minute or two. Sometimes after that load I'm instantly greeted with the death screen, so presumably I was abandoned and died all before I even had a chance to load in.
But tonight I spawned as an Eve and my baby had died just before I loaded in, I didn't even have a chance to feed them. Sorry to that baby, that was a really unlucky situation for you.
Just wondering if there is anything that can be done about that first load? It is something that always bugs me a little, but had some actual consequences for once tonight.