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#1 2018-05-08 17:27:49

Dishehs
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Stupid kids.

So I tried being productive one ladt time and it flopped big time as usual. Was Born in a village, mum tells me that they need a smith. According to her, I was the only person in the village that knew how.

I started off okay, had to setup all the smithing stuff but I got done fairly quickly. My mother starved, my brother never talked to me. I made an Axe and Hoe, then the kids came. "Are you new" I'd ask them, All of them said "N". They all lied about not being new because none of them lasted longer then a few minutes.

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#2 2018-05-08 20:45:01

pein
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Re: Stupid kids.

they often say, and i do believe they not new, but they still starve near the farm holding a basket, usually 1 out of 9 kids is a good number, one daughter never enough, two is often too much.

I carry them to a berry bush, leaving all behind, explaining stay here, pick off branches, get some milkweed, return in 5 minutes. Okay. they dont pick off a berry they just run back where we came from, knowing that there is no food there, often they starve. Sometimes i get like 3 out of 7 who doesnt forget to eat. But they expect someone to farm all life and they die on first time a watering cycle begins. Teaching is pointless, i ask them if they want a hard eve run, or hard run in general they mostly do. But if i run with one kid and work, they dont make things happen for us.

today i shoved a guy how to make pies and some nifty tricks, in between making blade and shear tool, getting extra wood for him
but food wasnt an issue, and havent had other goals really.

other guy was also new, he wanted to compost, we barely had babies, like 3, and one girl died early, so i hope the civ lasted, also the two guys looked the same so was hard to know which is which. he also followed me and watched me do it, so it was kinda sympathetic so i just showed a few tricks with sheep, mutton pie, kindling and stuff. i went out as a kid with a fresh backpack and returned with 5 iron as a man. Had an abandoning mom and an aunt who called me oliver, the most nice lady who raised me up and called me oliver even if i had no name. she was old till i completed the shear tool, and was so nice hearing her congratulate me. Was a half  life of work to do without any iron and wood nearby but someone mentioned when i was a baby and i was determined to make one.


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#3 2018-05-08 21:39:40

YAHG
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Re: Stupid kids.

pein wrote:

they often say, and i do believe they not new, but they still starve near the farm holding a basket, usually 1 out of 9 kids is a good number, one daughter never enough, two is often too much.

I carry them to a berry bush, leaving all behind, explaining stay here, pick off branches, get some milkweed, return in 5 minutes. Okay. they dont pick off a berry they just run back where we came from, knowing that there is no food there, often they starve. Sometimes i get like 3 out of 7 who doesnt forget to eat. But they expect someone to farm all life and they die on first time a watering cycle begins. Teaching is pointless, i ask them if they want a hard eve run, or hard run in general they mostly do. But if i run with one kid and work, they dont make things happen for us.

today i shoved a guy how to make pies and some nifty tricks, in between making blade and shear tool, getting extra wood for him
but food wasnt an issue, and havent had other goals really.

other guy was also new, he wanted to compost, we barely had babies, like 3, and one girl died early, so i hope the civ lasted, also the two guys looked the same so was hard to know which is which. he also followed me and watched me do it, so it was kinda sympathetic so i just showed a few tricks with sheep, mutton pie, kindling and stuff. i went out as a kid with a fresh backpack and returned with 5 iron as a man. Had an abandoning mom and an aunt who called me oliver, the most nice lady who raised me up and called me oliver even if i had no name. she was old till i completed the shear tool, and was so nice hearing her congratulate me. Was a half  life of work to do without any iron and wood nearby but someone mentioned when i was a baby and i was determined to make one.

Having a dude who wants to learn from you is about as much as you can hope for, I figure he is on that compost kick like how you wanted to make the shears.

I love composting but I end up having a lot of trouble keeping the sheep fed, last time people KEPT shearing them and baking berry pies.


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#4 2018-05-09 01:26:11

Mirelli
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Re: Stupid kids.

pein wrote:

they often say, and i do believe they not new, but they still starve near the farm holding a basket, usually 1 out of 9 kids is a good number, one daughter never enough, two is often too much.

I carry them to a berry bush, leaving all behind, explaining stay here, pick off branches, get some milkweed, return in 5 minutes. Okay. they dont pick off a berry they just run back where we came from, knowing that there is no food there, often they starve. Sometimes i get like 3 out of 7 who doesnt forget to eat. But they expect someone to farm all life and they die on first time a watering cycle begins. Teaching is pointless, i ask them if they want a hard eve run, or hard run in general they mostly do. But if i run with one kid and work, they dont make things happen for us.

today i shoved a guy how to make pies and some nifty tricks, in between making blade and shear tool, getting extra wood for him
but food wasnt an issue, and havent had other goals really.

other guy was also new, he wanted to compost, we barely had babies, like 3, and one girl died early, so i hope the civ lasted, also the two guys looked the same so was hard to know which is which. he also followed me and watched me do it, so it was kinda sympathetic so i just showed a few tricks with sheep, mutton pie, kindling and stuff. i went out as a kid with a fresh backpack and returned with 5 iron as a man. Had an abandoning mom and an aunt who called me oliver, the most nice lady who raised me up and called me oliver even if i had no name. she was old till i completed the shear tool, and was so nice hearing her congratulate me. Was a half  life of work to do without any iron and wood nearby but someone mentioned when i was a baby and i was determined to make one.

I was your aunt but I adopted you as my own :’) I didn’t know how to make the shears so I was so happy when you completed it not long before I died of old age. I made so many pies for you all. Hope the civ lasted. I accidentally made a sign by the bakery and realized I couldn’t move it so I made another one above the farm. I wanted to try my hand at making letters but I was too old at that point. You were a great kid <3


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#5 2018-05-09 02:39:04

Siolfor the Jackal
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Re: Stupid kids.

I feel like the problem is a lot of them are scared of being abandoned or killed for being new and "useless" so they say they aren't. I had a couple of kids I asked and they said no, but then I kept telling them it was ok if they were because I can teach them things and some eventually admitted to being new. Says a lot about their previous experiences with other players.

Sounds similar to a camp I was in last night. I ended up taking over the farm and eventually making a bigger berry farm. I watched some guy teach a guy how to make pies and do sheep stuff. I went to make more compost but I didn't know how to make sheep poop, and generally stay away from sheep because shepherds are crazy. The population dwindled until eventually my niece had two kids, looked like it was going to be ok. After the two other males died, I made a shit-tonne more pies.
Only thing that annoyed me about that camp, was that people kept ignoring me when I would ask if we had X or Y, too busy with their own shit.

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#6 2018-05-09 02:53:48

Lily
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Re: Stupid kids.

Yeah, I always ask them if they are new and they almost always say no, then most die right away. Some times when I am free to talk to them more, I ask them about specific jobs and that seems more accurate. If a person isn't new I some times ask if they are a pro, and most do say no to that.

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#7 2018-05-09 04:16:01

happynova
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Re: Stupid kids.

I think it's not always fear of being abandoned.  I think a lot of it may be the Dunning-Kruger effect at work: people being so deeply ignorant about something that they don't even know how much they don't know.  I've watched a few YouTube videos of people trying out the game, and found myself vigorously headdesking at how often when someone asks if they're new, they say "N," apparently based on the fact that, nah, they've been playing for ten or fifteen whole minutes now and have totally figured out how to pick things up and to feed themselves berries.  And, of course, Mom takes them at their word and trusts them to know what they're doing, so off they go, picking the non-fruiting milkweed and randomly grabbing tools and abandoning them on the other side of town when they can't figure out what they do.

People who admit they don't know stuff and actively try to learn from others are rarer than they should be, but awesome, at least if you actually have time to teach them.  I had a fantastic time the other day teaching a complete newbie the basics of farming.  (Or at least some of them.  I felt bad afterward when I realized I'd taught him well how to run a farm in a thriving town with compost piles and stuff, and not so much how to start one from scratch.  Hopefully he got someone to show him that stuff later.)  He was so eager and happy to learn, and there was a great moment in there where he hit adolescence and exclaimed, "I've never lived this long before!"  We totally bonded too.  He was sad when I got old, and vowed to name the farm after me.  And I walked away from that life feeling super good about having given someone a really positive first experience of the game, as well as some skills they could use later.

I hope I get to do that again sometime.  It was so much more fun than dealing with newbies who just run off and die while you're trying to explain things to them.

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#8 2018-05-09 04:40:30

Turnipseed
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Registered: 2018-04-05
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Re: Stupid kids.

one of the most rewarding things in this game is teaching new players...

i mean talk about a legacy you helped someone do a better job forever!

i still remember the kind old man who taught me to farm. the kind uncle who showed me how to bake. the wonderful lady who showed me around a forge.

this was all before the name update but hey thankyou to all the teachers of ohol! you make this game worth playing!

also this is teacher appreciation week in the US so WOOT!


Be kind, generous, and work together my potatoes.

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#9 2018-05-09 07:39:29

pein
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Re: Stupid kids.

YAHG wrote:

Having a dude who wants to learn from you is about as much as you can hope for, I figure he is on that compost kick like how you wanted to make the shears.

I love composting but I end up having a lot of trouble keeping the sheep fed, last time people KEPT shearing them and baking berry pies.

it was nice cause he wasnt a baby, was my age, i seen him clicking the backpack wrong and dance with the mutton meat xD but he figured out how to put in carts, how to cook pies, etc, so wasnt big deal to get him kindling and fire up oven, he followed me and watched how to

Mirelli wrote:

I was your aunt but I adopted you as my own :’) I didn’t know how to make the shears so I was so happy when you completed it not long before I died of old age. I made so many pies for you all. Hope the civ lasted. I accidentally made a sign by the bakery and realized I couldn’t move it so I made another one above the farm. I wanted to try my hand at making letters but I was too old at that point. You were a great kid <3

the worst part was not knowing where iron is, so i went in spiral around, see the next two biomes each side, started from left, ended up far north east,was so old coming back

best damn auntie i ever had  <3
you didnt forget me, you called me Oliver , thank you

Siolfor the Jackal wrote:

Sounds similar to a camp I was in last night. I ended up taking over the farm and eventually making a bigger berry farm. I watched some guy teach a guy how to make pies and do sheep stuff. I went to make more compost but I didn't know how to make sheep poop, and generally stay away from sheep because shepherds are crazy. The population dwindled until eventually my niece had two kids, looked like it was going to be ok. After the two other males died, I made a shit-tonne more pies.
Only thing that annoyed me about that camp, was that people kept ignoring me when I would ask if we had X or Y, too busy with their own shit.

yes, it was
well i werent there for a while, they needed shears, i was 48 when i finally made my 3 blades as i was lagging hard, had a mission, didnt wasted a second

i told you to clear pen as there were dung, boens and we couldnt feed anymore, i got a bowl of berry with carrot right after dropping mutton cart and placing it on the crust, but i seen you figured it out
try to put some unique clothing on when you look exactly the same as someone else
also stay diagonal to someone when talking, they cant stab you right away and you see the speech bubbles better


i never had teachers, not really,  i was watching youtube videos, i already knew they are bad players
i picked up some stuff before started playing, only the controls were so hard so i died a few times, once i was familiar, i got into forum, watched more professional guys doing it, smithing was hardest, even after videos, i had to train myself in big dead towns when i was left alone, if i dont lag i may even craft the tool from the iron i just placed in first saving firewood and time. i remember my first sheep pen took a lifetime and was bugged, was a small 3x3 adobe/fence mix
getting sheep took 3 lifes, shorter than normal cause i did it wrong or people messed up for me.
now it takes  few minutes

once i had a daughter who died messing up controls, reborn as son, clamping keyboard, same person, only male. i was teaching him but like controls, picking off berry bush which was useless for us, but simplest thing i could teach. other guy was annoyed that i spending so much time with him cause we died out cause of "her" being dead.


https://onehouronelife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=7986 livestock pens 4.0
https://onehouronelife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=4411 maxi guide

Playing OHOL optimally is like cosplaying a cactus: stand still and don't waste the water.

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#10 2018-05-09 08:08:01

Lily
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Re: Stupid kids.

happynova wrote:

I've watched a few YouTube videos of people trying out the game, and found myself vigorously headdesking at how often when someone asks if they're new, they say "N," apparently based on the fact that, nah, they've been playing for ten or fifteen whole minutes now and have totally figured out how to pick things up and to feed themselves berries.

What bothers me, is some of them people say they are not new and don't even know how to pick stuff up, eat food, or put on clothing.

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#11 2018-05-09 13:28:03

YAHG
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Re: Stupid kids.

Lily wrote:
happynova wrote:

I've watched a few YouTube videos of people trying out the game, and found myself vigorously headdesking at how often when someone asks if they're new, they say "N," apparently based on the fact that, nah, they've been playing for ten or fifteen whole minutes now and have totally figured out how to pick things up and to feed themselves berries.

What bothers me, is some of them people say they are not new and don't even know how to pick stuff up, eat food, or put on clothing.

I bet they are afraid we are just gonna starve em if they admit it.


"be prepared and one person cant kill all city, if he can, then you deserve it"  -pein
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https://onehouronelife.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=1438

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#12 2018-05-09 14:21:03

Lily
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Re: Stupid kids.

Without any help a totally new person is likely to die anyway. So even if you think a person might let you die, you should really tell people if you are new. Besides, a lot of us do help new people so they shouldn't be so afraid.

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#13 2018-05-10 02:45:43

YAHG
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Re: Stupid kids.

Just because you are right doesn't mean they gonna admit it smile


"be prepared and one person cant kill all city, if he can, then you deserve it"  -pein
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#14 2018-05-10 04:54:31

Siolfor the Jackal
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Posts: 64

Re: Stupid kids.

I have seen several people abandon babies or refuse to feed any that admitted they were new. It was a bit awful. Sometimes I adopt them and try my best to help them, sometimes people try and kill me because of it. Jerks.

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#15 2018-05-11 22:37:02

IronBear
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Registered: 2018-03-26
Posts: 91

Re: Stupid kids.

I don't waste to much time on babies.  I get them to childhood and that's it.  Between the sucides and morons and a vicious hunger, I don't have time to be too chatty or attached.

I am actually my most chatty when I am an Eve.  Because there is no much work I can safely do, I camp a berry patch and explain the situation to them as they grow.

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