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#1 Re: Main Forum » Another fix for Eve spawns is incoming. » 2021-06-14 01:53:21

jasonrohrer wrote:

But I've got to be careful not to take away the magical feeling in the process.

And that magical feeling is mostly felt---at least most intensely---by new players.



It's really hard for the veterans to see the game through that lens.


Compared to many of you, I myself am just a "new player."  My main game account only has 132 hours logged on the live servers.

When I log in for a life, I can still feel some of that wonder and magic.... being born into a situation, somewhere in an infinite world, and trying to figure out what needs to be done, and how I can do it, before my brief life is over.

So, despite what the veterans might say, I don't think that the game is spoiled or ruined or anything like that.

But it's definitely not perfect.


No, the magic hasn't been kept.
My daughter used to love playing, as did I. She tried to play on a mutual friends account when we were visiting them (I recommended the game to them) and couldn't even survive a single entire lifetime because of how convoluted the systems have gotten, just with eating alone. After some reflection, you probably don't understand this since you already KNOW the system instead of having to wiki for 5 hours just to make the game playable. We want a game, not a second or third job or research project. Its not like we can actually teach other players now since just surviving is now 80% of the game instead of creating, teaching and building.
Plus, the lack of new players show very well that magic was lost long ago. So do these dead forums. Well gone are the days where there were so many players new servers needed to be added. No one is gushing to their mate about this wonderful new game they found anymore. They buy it, find it so hard to get into that they drop it after a few lives leaving the player base the same numbers. The two times I heard it brought up in conversation in the last year it was the exact same sentiment. "Yeah, it USED to be good. Don't buy it though, not worth it now." I haven't heard of a new player outside reddit talking about it in over a year. Even then that's usually to suggest yet another grind or griefing complaint or suggestion. I find it strange that 2HOL has more of a regular playerbase than the original game, which in itself SHOULD be a giant red flag.
Just using the reviews isn't a very good gauge since its usually only either the REALLY pissed off players who would complain or the far more likely vets who keep trying to find workarounds for the updates. Most who don't like the game play it a bit, find it too hard to play and drop it forever into the greyed out steam box, never to be played again without ever even bothering to click the reviews.


There's a reason I stopped playing this game years ago, the complaints have been in the same track since 2018 and the designer ignores them, will literally tell the ONLY few people left in the game's forum that everyone's experiences are invalid and basically aren't real and the game we can all see the issues with is fine while we're STILL waiting for the updates which were promised in its trailer to make progression possible and interesting.
It's rather sad, since I came back to see if the game had been improved only to find even less players since the race update and the grind only increased for who knows what reason.
What's even sadder about that is those new players will get less and less over the months and years, meaning less money for Jason to work on fixing the game. Which in turn has already brought on the loss of regular players (which the forums have made clear was happening) which will eventually kill the game. After all, if he really wanted to know how vet players don't get bored, he could've listened to the forums a few years back. Or actually gone into the game and watch all the silly and stupid stuff we all did, like the cults, pre-family families, evil aunts and godsent uncles to find out.
I loved the idea of legacy and teaching in a multiplayer survival game, but gotta say, I've become extremely disappointed in the result. After years, I feel like I was mislead by the trailer, the promises of fixes and updates after buying the product and the portrayed ideas which got me to shell out the cash. Like most of the players were saying a few years ago, Jason needed help THEN if he wanted to really expand the game to what he wanted. By now its too late I think.
In all honesty, I don't think I'll be buying another game with Rohrer in the head dev team names again or recommending them after how this has turned out.

#2 Re: Main Forum » Please Jason, stop adding useless high-tech. Work on the basics. » 2019-01-23 21:30:46

Fact is, this game has been hemorrhaging players.
Seems like the tutorial helped, but there's still a giant hole in lower tier tech which means instead of a rise to civilazation, progress is made in leaps and bounds.

#3 Re: Main Forum » Are these things still a thing anymore? » 2019-01-19 15:36:17

GreatShawn wrote:
Grim_Arbiter wrote:
GreatShawn wrote:

I'll maybe start a new cult the next time I play... What should I call it?

Today i was born as Luigi and said "mama mia" the whole time while making the towns first bucket and getting the towns furst sheep.

So name your eve plumber and name all male kids mario and Luigi. Name females daisy and peach. Name every random 5th baby toad.

No. Like a name for it.


Swan cult.
I had a life where people where trying to take over from goose cult, they would all gather round and kill the geese at the same three stumps. At least until my brother killed most of them. I'd like to see the Swan cult reborn

#4 Re: Main Forum » Naked Adults & Fully Clothed Children » 2019-01-11 02:40:42

pein wrote:

the other day i asked sister to give her pack to me to get sheep, she dropped it instantly before i finished the sentence

i got sheep in 2 minutes, as everything was ready, i just needed to store rope and arrow and some food, i gave her back in 2 min she was surprised

Yeah, I do that too if they're older. They can just DO more. Less time to eat again, can get a higher yum bonus. It just makes sense to give it back til one becomes available or until you make more.
I tend to only give kids that prove themselves the bp's. Like who start berry farming as soon as they get hair or start looking around where to help out or apprentice themselves.

#5 Re: Main Forum » Hello children » 2019-01-09 10:16:20

Hey Aurora, finally back from vacation huh?
How'd you lose your hours?

#6 Re: Main Forum » On twins (again) » 2019-01-08 19:37:40

WomanWizard wrote:

3. A pair of abandoned twins that were born while I was putting together some sheep food. I paused in my task to take them somewhere warm, named them Remus and Romulus and they grew up to be incredibly helpful. I gave one of them a wolf hat and the other found one as well. They made sure to let me know that I was a good dad. They also had a younger brother named Mike, who I also cared for.

Had what I thought were my last kids, a pair of girls I named romulus and remus since they'd be starting up the city. Then had two more girls and the twins griefed us so hard it killed the village.

On the other hand, I was once part of a pair of goose cult twins that kept a city alive when we were flooded with noob players that never replenished the farms. Just ate and ate until they died.
Our kids ended up being really good even though we taught them some of that silly goose stuff

#7 Re: Main Forum » We did the Apocalypse! » 2019-01-08 07:44:39

Gederian wrote:

If we just had weekly content updates that advanced the tech tree the game would stay interesting.

Jason DID do that for awhile, then people complained they were being completed too fast.

#8 Re: Main Forum » We did the Apocalypse! » 2019-01-07 11:32:33

Gederian wrote:

One of the dumbest thing I've ever seen in a video game and I "lived" through the first apocalypse where a horse with a crown tied to a stop light ended the world.

It makes absolutely no sense and serves no purpose.

How do you go from trying to be technically correct about crafting an engine to this.

Please make it stop and give us actual content like we were promised.


Dude, we got 4 different kinds of domestic animals (5 if you count dogs), hundreds of recipes and even carts to cars in a single year. Your getting the content. Plus, remember, they had to do this on server 14 and build an entire town specifically for this and STILL almost got griefed.
This isn't going to be happening very often, and certainly not much on the main 3 servers.

#9 Re: Main Forum » Download trouble » 2019-01-07 10:17:22

Its in your email.
If you didn't keep the message, email jason

#11 Re: Main Forum » We did the Apocalypse! » 2019-01-07 01:07:25

Awesome.
Finally! Someone did it!

#12 Re: Main Forum » All hail the Goose cult! Worship the fowlness » 2019-01-05 18:43:20

hmrka wrote:

I just had goose cult twins grief my camp, of course I shot one of them but then while I was on cooldown they ran somewhere, and the other came with arrows. She wanted to shoot me but missed and killed some random girl instead. Then she died from starvation. They also hid our axe because "its used to kill goose!!!"...

me : http://lineage.onehouronelife.com/serve … id=2697032 I think the family Is dead now but I lived a pretty ok life.  Death to goose cult.

I think it was the Anas family I saw them first. Then they ended up in the city just after someone griefed the car.
http://lineage.onehouronelife.com/serve … id=2697279

Either way, Fowl Forever!
The cult of the geese shall live on forever now!

#13 Main Forum » All hail the Goose cult! Worship the fowlness » 2019-01-05 17:29:56

Tane
Replies: 4

Just finished a game playing as the Goose cult.
Gotta say, it was one of the most fun lives I've had in weeks.
That hellion cacophony of honking hoots will take over my dreams I bet.
Then the bad woman came, and murdered one of our founders in the doorway of the Fowl Temple

#14 Re: Main Forum » I'm still trying to figure out what happened here » 2019-01-05 10:06:44

Yup, those two have been around for about a week.
When I got them as twin girls I named them romulus and remus Carter.

#15 Re: Main Forum » Where is Jason? » 2019-01-05 04:38:56

jasonrohrer wrote:

Jason is here.

But he also has to do the actual work of getting an update out every week.  And there still are 50+ reported bugs that need to be fixed.  And dozens of emails coming in every day that need to be answered.

And he also has a family.  And he took some time off for the holidays.

And he's trying to have a balanced life beyond just working on this game and thinking about it every waking moment.

So, given all of that, "interacting with the community" has taken a bit of a back seat.

I'm trying, but it's really hard to balance it all.



Churr for the snowmen, finally made one last night.
Most of us get that you have a family, we have ones too and know what its like. Blue has a point though. From what I've seen, the consensus among players is that we all love coming across old ruins, or at least being in a position where we could. This is a great game with a great original premise, but it may be growing bigger than you yourself can handle. It might be getting to that time where you hire a small team to help with the bugs.
I guess the question you'll have to answer is whether you ultimately want to make the best product for most amount of people and sacrifice a bit of creative control, or keep complete creative scope but have a increasingly frustrated fan base when the work expands.

Its never easy to keep that balance, so I don't envy you in that respect.

#16 Re: Main Forum » Update incoming, but more about it tomorrow. » 2019-01-04 10:09:15

GreatShawn wrote:

Jason can we please nerf the iron nerf. Pleaaassss??


Wouldn't a new metal source be better?
Its already hard enough to find a site with enough iron nearby

#17 Re: Main Forum » Carter family » 2019-01-02 18:11:50

Even weirder.
I thought I saw the bones of Venice

#18 Re: Main Forum » Carter family » 2019-01-02 18:06:42

I don't know how!
We came across a couple weird bugs, which I think was just one.
My sister, Clem held her baby who went AFK but never aged out of her holding her. So clem was holding this 20+ girl who was having babies, meanwhile I seemed to have stopped aging.
I kept finding grandkids around but could never find the parent.
My sister died and I kept going, brought a sheep home we badly needed. I ended up starving after I thought our last girl died. I looked in my 30s/40s and still had the Bars of one.
I saw my granddaughter as I died but we had already run out of soil and the berry bushes were all empty.

#19 Main Forum » Carter family » 2019-01-02 16:29:56

Tane
Replies: 3

I was Clara, with Eve Carter as our mum.
Somehow we ended up with a everliving me and a very, very strange adult baby.
Good job most of you, too bad Marcus griefed us all and the boar ended us

#20 Re: Main Forum » Welp, I just did some math » 2018-12-11 14:49:47

If you decreased the prevalence anymore than two, you'd have to increase the reward per vein just because of the learning curve alone.
After all, all it would take is two or three new players making a mistake in two generations to doom a entire town

#21 Re: Main Forum » Having 0 daughters is a major problem » 2018-12-08 13:48:40

Fact is, the only way to play this game is with a successive line.
Its THE base mechanic of the game.
When the game itself ends your line, it can make the whole exercise seem completely pointless. I know I've taken a break because of that before. Kobayashi Maru, the unwinnable situation.
For me, I think there should be some sort of stop gap if its the last girl in a long lasting line.
Minimum of 3 girls, or a Fibonacci scale chance in favour of females with age

#22 Re: Main Forum » (Spoiler) The Oil Update Guide » 2018-12-08 13:26:24

Iron is going to become more important that food soon

#23 Re: Main Forum » Tips for beginners » 2018-11-24 14:16:39

I always prefer apprenticing the newbies to someone eh.
Its way faster than actually explaining it, and they normally understand most of the skill after a single lifetime, IF they stay alive

#24 Re: Main Forum » Link to the non-nudity mod? » 2018-08-09 03:05:48

Thank you!
I've knew I saw it before but I couldn't place where.

#25 Main Forum » Just had my first Gen 30 family, Thank you Earthman kids. » 2018-08-08 04:09:08

Tane
Replies: 4

I am so proud, last night I played twice as eves, once as Avara (avatar) and the other as Earthman.
Food was starting to run low as Earthman but my daughter was maybe twelve or so with at least one good brother to help her. I was unsure if my other daughter survived and saw the bones of some young sons next to some of the last close-by burdock. We had water to the southeast of camp and had just got the tools we needed when I heard the ding-ding-ding of death. My only chance of living was to make the trek north to the secret berry stash above the soil, but to do that would be to take those precious pip's away from my surviving children.
I did the calculation and did the last little bits of work before dying.

Thank you so much kiddo's, I am happy to see you survived long into the night.

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