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I agree that now all towns feel pretty much the same as there is a certain meta and food changes don't give much freedom to make towns unique. I remember corner towns and vividly remember a magnificent center of the map where there were four bell towers and chests packed with clothes. It was slightly before the menace of the eve hunters and people from different races could meet in peace, even though they didn't know each other's languages. Then eve hunters started camping there with war swords, it was so toxic.

As for the valuable things, I think that first and foremost they have to be useful. Take a look at gold - bell towers are not essential, hey, even not needed since there are maps and waystones. Also they usually lead you to dead towns (I think it has been changed but still). And crowns are completely useless as now leadership is a real mechanic and noone fights for the crown. So gold has little to no value. But what is the real currency these days? Water. Water is used to power up newcomen towers, it is absolutely required to get food when you run out of animals to hunt.

Some suggestions for the valuable stuff you could find:
bronze - you can use it to make less durable but just as efficient tools. Could be used by eves when the camp needs many tools at once but doesn't have much iron.
a material that could make tools more durable (smithys would be more important then as now their job is to simply make hoe heads)
rare kinds of trees - oxytrees could grow much faster than most trees and could look prettier than most trees we have
                             some more fruit-giving trees like bananas but maybe regrowing their fruits once in a while.

Hmm if there was a smithing area to the right then it was my sign. Good to see that even after the family died some people still see it.

Well, some of the ideas above are only subjectively good. While I agree that baby backpacks would be great, seas and oceans would be an infinite amount of saltwater. If there were sweet lakes or something like that, then noone would be building wells again as the water economy would be completely broken. Oceans would also make travel a lot harder, while it already is unconvenient to find other towns.

We already have a pretty decent navigation system with maps and roads. It's not much but it's useful and - most importantly - intuitive to use.

But yes, the cars are pretty much useless and should be seriously buffed. I think the fuel waste is a huge chunk of the problem, as the author of this thread said.

My sign is my form of protest. It lasts pretty much forever (server wipes are a thing, I know), I don't sit around acting like I like the current state of the game while also not killing everyone else like Bobo Bill. And it matters to me simply because I spent quite some time making it and now it turns out few players have seen it.

Are you sure it was you who wiped the town? I was in the town literally a generation before Bison family died. When I was dying there was a girl problem (one girl baby born by the only fertile female in town, who was already pretty old). As I look at the family tree none were killed by knives, bows, boars etc. It appears that the only fertile girl starved early and everyone commited suicide by starving
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I knew the mother of the girl personally, I was the one who named her.

It's a shame that they died though. I made my protest sign 'NEED CONTENT' there. Now noone will see it. Also there was a ton of water.

I agree with this point especially.

There is a certain meta in the game that dictates how you build, manage space etc. Like, all buildings are the same. They are connected wall-by-wall and in a rectangular shape. Noone even cares about painting adobe walls as it takes a lot of time and is inefficient. Every life becomes the same. 50% of the time the town has rubber problem, 10% of the time the town is a new eve camp and everything else is mostly keeping the town in its good state. I haven't seen engines in quite some time not to mention planes. Making higher tech just isn't good resource management, even the engines as they are now easily griefable. As far as I know they are THE easiest way to grief as for now in the game.

And, of course, I agree that the whites are mostly useless. Being born as a white feels almost like a punishmnent. Not quite but almost.

The food change was not like the posse system - it was intuitive and you didn't need anyone to explain it to you. Food simply now gives less pips, yum chain doesn't break - that's all.

Posse system, though has its roots irl (bigger groups are less likely to be killed, it pays off to be a part of a group) is completely unintuitive - requires you to type some stuff in the chat, also you have to be holding something, the leader must exile the person... I understand that all of this has been made to make griefkilling harder but it didn't manage to do the task. Instead the system keeps getting more and more complex and unintuitive. Yes, it pays off to be a part of a larger whole but that was already in the game - if you get killed, someone will save you and someone will avenge you (unless you're an obvious griefer). We don't need a special mechanic to make it real.

If there were so many kills (as the gamedev showed in another thread) then that means one of three things:
a) There were no pads in town or noone that was not stabbed knew how to heal. Both of which may be easily prevented.
b) The victims were sentenced for griefing. It's not important whether the accusation was true as the game in its concpet tries to give players tools and not to tell them what to do with those tools. Fake accusations happen irl, try to explain that you are not a griefer.
c) The town was raided by an organised group. The old system gave us a chance to protect ourselves but now its pretty much impossible, as many threads about raids show. If the town was raided (which, before posse, had been happening lastly during the war sword period) then that meant that its citizens failed to protect their town and they deserved to die out. And no, protecting the town from raid doesn't require you to be good at pvp, you may build safehouses, before family well updates you could also make colonies.

There were some positive seasons suggested in the opening post

Personally I would prefer predictable seasons, as they are in real life. A clear, intuitive cycle would be the best.

Jason's job isn't to get rid of bobo but to give us some ways to make him not a problem.

This is a multiplayer game - some players will always grief, and banning them would not be good in this case as the bobo group uses mechanics already existing in the game. Raids happened in the past and people used property fences to protect themselves, why not try now (come to think of it I haven't yet. Might be worth a try).

I understand that permabanning should be a possibility for the game dev but for now we haven't tried to stop griefers. The towns I saw getting griefed were just regular towns without any security system whatsoever. Let's keep permabanning an unfortunate eventuality.

Also, I don't really like the posse system too as it is unintuitive. But I can tolerate it.

Maybe not a car but a steam engine. It would be hard to make but would be cheaper than cars in return. Of course steam engines would have to use rails to move around but that would make rails useful for once. If you could attach carts to your engine, that would make trade so much easier (assuming that there is a rilroad between towns).

This sounds... really, really interesting.

Not only would this give more variety throughout many lifes but also would make space management more important, which would give town leaders a thing to do. I love the idea, as it is a better-sounding version of the family specialty update.

However, I'm afraid that it is almost impossible for a server to naturlly form various cities without having some pice of tech tree missing. For now, because biomes are locked to races, the game algorythm forces new eve spawns to ensure that no race is missing. With the system above not only looking for a town with rubber would take too much time (especially if waystones became useless) but also it wouldn't be guaranteed that you would find any towns with rubber.

The idea with town specializations would work better if no crucial resources like oil, iron, rubber etc. were locked behind the mechanic. Maybe special super-efficient foods, better-than-usual tools or some other things which weaker but still valid vrsions are available to anyone would work better? I think that any forced trade wouldn't work for the fanbase.

Anyway, the concept is definitely worth exploring, although maybe not in such a drastical way - like starting with smaller things that would be region-locked