Hi I'm upset about the unnecessary naming change

Lum · 2019-10-05 09:01:58

Now don't get me wrong I absolutely love all the additional names, that's going to make it so much more diverse. I'm only mad about the gender matching. Who cares what gender the names are? I found it funny, and freeing, and I liked having a male name when I was female etc. Yes it has to do with my gender identity but still, I find it unnecessary. The only reason it exists is to allow people that don't give names, that just say "you are g" or "you are b" and let fate decide, to keep doing so and feel even less awkward about it. It makes everything more systematic. Names apparently have genders in game now as a RULE OF THE UNIVERSE. No cultural differences, nothing.
It's not even for realism's sake. If that were the case, we would have FATHERS, we would have marriage, we would have thirst?? To me it is just a stigmatizing feature and I know that most people won't be bothered by it. I'm definitely not asking you to agree or to also be upset about it. I just hope you understand where I'm coming from. The game is still great.

wondible · 2019-10-05 12:19:33

There was a suggestion which I liked: You can spell out any exact name, but if the server has to autocorrect, then it picks by gender.

pein · 2019-10-05 12:45:41

should just be a selection box

Dafuto · 2019-10-05 12:47:07

I didn't like having a girl name as a boy or vice versa. It's a nice change.

Lum · 2019-10-05 15:15:41

wondible wrote:

There was a suggestion which I liked: You can spell out any exact name, but if the server has to autocorrect, then it picks by gender.

I would be completely fine with that actually.
By the way last life I told one of my babies "You're completely new right?" and my message wasn't even allowed to go through because it got autocorrected to "You're Commie German" (our family name). I liked it better beforehand, where it doesn't correct your message in case you're not actually naming the child.

BladeWoods · 2019-10-05 15:42:56

Lum wrote:

wondible wrote:
There was a suggestion which I liked: You can spell out any exact name, but if the server has to autocorrect, then it picks by gender.
I would be completely fine with that actually.
By the way last life I told one of my babies "You're completely new right?" and my message wasn't even allowed to go through because it got autocorrected to "You're Commie German" (our family name). I liked it better beforehand, where it doesn't correct your message in case you're not actually naming the child.

Well before it would've still named your child, you just wouldn't even know it

I prefer the gender separated names. Makes more sense for Bob to be a boy.

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NiGB0 · 2019-10-05 17:40:46

LOL............................................................................................................................................

The_Anabaptist · 2019-10-05 19:34:22

Thank you Jason for the expanded naming list. I for one appreciate it.

The_Anabaptist

coriander · 2019-10-06 10:20:42

wondible wrote:

There was a suggestion which I liked: You can spell out any exact name, but if the server has to autocorrect, then it picks by gender.

Second this idea.

Amon · 2019-10-06 13:29:09

That is a nice middle ground, but I'm a-ok with the name change. Never really liked being called lady as a boy.

sigmen4020 · 2019-10-06 14:32:55

Gone are the days of old men called Babygirl.

Coconut Fruit · 2019-10-07 13:15:32

Lum wrote:

The only reason it exists is to allow people that don't give names, that just say "you are g" or "you are b" and let fate decide

It autocorrects to the closest name in the list. It would be fun tho if it would be a random name for given letter if only one letter was given.

jasonrohrer · 2019-10-08 15:59:59

There are thousands of names that can be used for both boys and girls.

The names that are "only one gender" have never been widely used for the other gender in the past 138 years. There's a large amount of real-world consensus about this. Richard is not a girl's name. Penelope is not a boy's name. Sandy is both.

Part of the emotional power of this game is in the narrow channel of player communication which filters out many of the usual hallmarks of "online game." These hallmarks are immersion-breaking.

If you're a girl, and your mother names you Richard, that's a reminder that your mother is an online player who is goofing off, and that's immersion breaking. Mothers in real life never name their girl Richard just to goof off, right?

Regarding name auto-correct generally, the game was always doing that behind the scenes before, but now at least you're aware of it. "YOU ARE AWARE OF IT" used to set your baby's name to AWAT or whatever, by surprise.

I generally hate auto-correct in software, but here, the server code is too dumb to know that YOU ARE DUMB isn't a naming attempt.

The other option is to just not let the name go through unless it's on the whitelist and currently not taken. This would result in trial and error, though, which would also be annoying.

Anhigen · 2019-10-08 17:26:12

jasonrohrer wrote:

There are thousands of names that can be used for both boys and girls.
The names that are "only one gender" have never been widely used for the other gender in the past 138 years. There's a large amount of real-world consensus about this. Richard is not a girl's name. Penelope is not a boy's name. Sandy is both.
Part of the emotional power of this game is in the narrow channel of player communication which filters out many of the usual hallmarks of "online game." These hallmarks are immersion-breaking.
If you're a girl, and your mother names you Richard, that's a reminder that your mother is an online player who is goofing off, and that's immersion breaking. Mothers in real life never name their girl Richard just to goof off, right?

This is so obtuse...

The argument has shifted from wanting to help players who accidentally named their children the wrong name, to preventing griefing and "immersion breaking" gameplay, all while dodging how inappropriate it is to arbitrarily assign gender roles to names. There's plenty of "real-world" consensus about a lot of things that shouldn't be in the game, and I can't believe it needs to be pointed out that there are several beliefs systems, from past 138 years, that don't need to be in your imaginary world. Like...

Ultimately, it's you, the developer, who has chosen to force us to follow a gender naming system. And I think that's more than uncool.

The problem at hand was the way names were handled--David and Davina are not similar though they are close together when sorted alphabetically. I think a large body of players agree that showing the new names, right away, is great, and that the expanded list is wicked too. If you're concerned that players are getting the wrong names, due to greifing or whatever, you can always allow us to change those names when we get to a certain age. That is such a better way of handling the situation than to force politics on players. You're presently developing a curse system that allows us to determine what's bad as WE decide it AND forcing constructs so that we play the way you want? Just like... use the same energy for both.

I made the point last time, but up next, "boys" can't wear dresses and "girls" can't hold a smithing hammer. We could pull up data on fashions for the last 138 years or job statistics over the decades and throw that in here in case y'all forgot that there's a lot of real world consensus about these things too... C'mon my guy.

OHOL is all I've talked about with my friends and family since I started playing it so it's been real tough reading your words--and your stance--on non-binary and trans individuals. You want to talk about beauty?? It's amazing that the game gives us the opportunity to be mothers, or uncles, and to switch up gender dynamics, and highlight social constructs--all just through game play!! Have you even thought of how that would impact players or what that would mean for some people?? And then we gotta read your thoughts on gender... like... boys gotta be boys because that's how it's gotta be--but it's not my fault!

Lum wrote:

Names apparently have genders in game now as a RULE OF THE UNIVERSE. No cultural differences, nothing.

And this is the most important--significant--point on the matter. Interact with it, please.

Love the game, and your work, but this is a misstep.

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Dodge · 2019-10-08 18:24:44

Yeah no... being called Suzie or Lucie or wathever when you're born as a boy would be really annoying.

Then you're imposing your "philosophy" on somebody else, which ironically is the whole reason for this post.

I'm all about being able to change your own name if you want to though.

Also it's really not a political thing but purely based on statistics from the past 100+ years...

DestinyCall · 2019-10-08 19:20:36

Dodge wrote:

Also it's really not a political thing but purely based on statistics from the past 100+ years...

It is a very political thing. It might not matter that much to you or to Jason, but it is a very important subject for some people and political groups. Dismissing the issue as unimportant is not the right answer.

Twisted · 2019-10-08 19:26:08

I haven't read the entire thread but I just wanted to pop in and say that I agree that limiting names by gender was completely unnecessary. I don't like that change.

jasonrohrer · 2019-10-08 20:30:19

It was there in the data, from the Social Security Administration, which tracked gender naming trends over the past 138 years. This is fascinating data. I ignored that aspect of the data when I first implemented that system, because I was rushing (shortly after launch) to get the baby names in place as quickly as possible. I also ignored all years except for 2016 originally. When I recently took another look at the data, I discovered that it was tagged by gender. Wow, cool!

My three children were given gender-neutral names before birth (before we knew their gender), and I've heard of a few other people doing that, BUT... people who engage in that radical practice always pick gender neutral names. They don't say, "We picked Richard, whether or not the baby is a boy or a girl." No, they pick Sandy or Scout or Reilly or Mez or Ayza or Novy. And if you want to do that in this game, you can.

HOWEVER:

--If you're giving your baby a blatantly cross-gender name to be funny....

--If you're giving your baby a blatantly cross-gender name to make a political statement...

... this is the same as naming your baby Dickhead, which has never been permitted for one very good reason: the name is being applied to another human player, likely a total stranger, and it will stick with them for the rest of their life in the game. You've been given an enormous amount of power there---to pick their permanent name---and you need to leave your desire to troll people or to express your political agenda out of it.

You can still freely troll people or express your political agenda with the rest of your speech in the game, which is completely unfiltered and uncensored.

If you really hate gendered names in this game, don't use them for your babies. There are 7,917 gender-neutral names for you to chose from. They are pasted here for your perusal:

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Amon · 2019-10-08 20:33:44

Politics always dessolve to the loudest voices heard. We have a poll feature and could gather data from users currently playing instead of judging opinion from a single thread.

Generally. I do not care that this change was made, most people give sensible names to their children, but when you get an iffy name it is rather distracting and annoying. But it's a liveable thing.
And as presented.
Don't be/go political with naming children, don't invovle children in pandering to politics, it's borderline child abuse.

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CatX · 2019-10-08 20:39:55

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jasonrohrer · 2019-10-08 20:46:08

Anhigen wrote:

it's been real tough reading your words--and your stance--on non-binary and trans individuals.

Where have I expressed my words or stance on non-binary and trans individuals?

And what do baby names have to do with it?

DestinyCall wrote:

It is a very political thing. It might not matter that much to you or to Jason, but it is a very important subject for some people and political groups. Dismissing the issue as unimportant is not the right answer.

Exactly. As a mother in this game, you have no idea what your baby thinks about this political issue. That's why it's inappropriate to stick them with a politically-charged name for the rest of their in-game life. They are not a walking billboard for your cause. You can also not name your baby TRUMP2020.

Dodge · 2019-10-08 20:49:39

DestinyCall wrote:

Dodge wrote:
Also it's really not a political thing but purely based on statistics from the past 100+ years...

It is a very political thing. It might not matter that much to you or to Jason, but it is a very important subject for some people and political groups. Dismissing the issue as unimportant is not the right answer.

I'm saying the way this game mechanic has been implemented was not a political statement.

So being "triggered" about the game imposing some gender norm is misplaced.

Something like "Hey could it be possible to name myself as a name from any gender i want? That would be nice thanks "

Would have been more appropriate than going on a political rant.

DestinyCall · 2019-10-08 21:34:09

Dodge wrote:

Something like "Hey could it be possible to name myself as a name from any gender i want? That would be nice thanks smile "
Would have been more appropriate than going on a political rant.

Who is that even directed at? I think the OP was very polite in how he approached the topic and didn't make it overtly political.

The_Anabaptist · 2019-10-08 22:56:34

Hi, I'm upset that I can't name people in the third person. I just want to name babies "The_Loaf, The_Weirdo, The_Runner, The_First_To_Die, etc..." First person names are so discriminatory to us Third Person named types.
/s

The_Anabaptist

sigmen4020 · 2019-10-09 09:06:14

This change helps me personally, because I pretty much name my kids within their gender. The annoying thing before was that I always felt bad when I accidentally name my kids a name typical of the opposite gender. The only times I don't do this are when I play with friends and think of joke names, such as Babygirl for a guy, or Babyboy for a girl.

With that being said I still understand why others are upset. It can be annoying too to have your naming freedom reduced.

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