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#1 Re: Main Forum » Sign protest thread » 2020-05-20 13:24:41

If you can use paper and chisel to make words on a sign maybe more ppl would do it.
Making a sign is a lot of work and not worth it. I found the best way to "protest" is just not playing the game. Go sleep that is what I did.

I notice that few days recently the steamcharts showed that Avg. Players drop to around 30+ And the players continuously drop ever since big_smile
There are the whole bunch of ideas could make the game better and new content idea in the forum. But he doesn't play the game and he doesn't listen to his players. Twisted said the iron update is complete shit. Scrapping Engine is bull shit. If Jason doesn't care that his game is dying why would we care?

#2 Re: Main Forum » The True Bison Followers and the False Queen Opaline Bison » 2020-05-20 09:36:42

Arcurus wrote:
Blue tinker wrote:

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It's a shame that they died though. I made my protest sign 'NEED CONTENT' there. Now noone will see it. Also there was a ton of water.

can be worth to reclaim the town...

Why is it matter?
Jason doesn't play his own game so your sign 'NEED CONTENT' is useless.
So, the Bison fam dies out, what is the big deal?? With the current status of the game, towns die in 2-3 days is normal. Nothing worth to build, nothing worth to play.

#3 Re: Main Forum » Cooking Fire - Suggestion » 2020-05-20 09:15:14

Yep, Slaves for sale is something Jason would like to hear.

#4 Re: Main Forum » Cooking Fire - Suggestion » 2020-05-20 06:54:32

Bruh??
Jason hate update and new content. He just like limitations, restrictions and stuffs.
If you have brilliant idea as scrapping engine he might listen.

#5 Re: Main Forum » Ideas that make the game simpler, more enjoyable that Jason hate :D » 2020-05-18 16:14:38

7x7 enclosed wall I think. But who cares, build what you like.

#6 Re: Main Forum » Ideas that make the game simpler, more enjoyable that Jason hate :D » 2020-05-18 16:04:06

Dantox wrote:

How many years of game designing experience do i need to have some better zoom?

Not sure, but I use a mod for that.
Took me 5 mins to have zoom out, back pack control, movement, ... But Jason hate it big_smile

#7 Re: Main Forum » What is currently the main reason families die? » 2020-05-18 16:00:26

DestinyCall wrote:

   
Jason's solution is to avoid the end-game by encouraging early lineage death.   It keeps the game "fresh" by ensuring that we are always climbing upward without reaching the top of the mountain.   You can't get bored if you always die before reaching the end.

This solution seems like Jason sitting on top of the mountain and pushing us to the cliff so we can climb up to not get bore big_smile
Since water is limited, towns will die anyway. We will have to rebuild scratch, he just wants to make it faster.
Instead of more content, more thing to do like 2hol we got this :<

#8 Main Forum » Ideas that make the game simpler, more enjoyable that Jason hate :D » 2020-05-18 15:41:44

minth
Replies: 6

The game is too complicated, everyone knows that. Crafting is complicated, communicate is hard, even curse systems, killing system is complex. Making 7x7 room for best temperature?? Oh Come on, most ppl don't freakin know that...   
- First, just remove the language barrier. It is annoying enough with typing 2 words each time. 
- Second, everyone wants zoom, more control of backpack, movement but Jason doesn't.
- Tool slot is bad and annoy but If I could choose things I could remove race restriction or at least try to make it better. Making Gingers is the only race can get oil is bad. We have 4 races here and ginger can't feed them all. >> Maybe the white could get oil too, that could be better.
- The finite iron mine is bad and needs more buff. Water is already limited why do we keep getting nerfed? Towns die very fast now a day. With that speed, there is no fun to have high tech or even low tech. Why do we build something only last for 2-3 days??? More buff on iron or oil so we could see some plane again.
- The final in my opinion is new content. Which 2hol doing very good on this. But since they are not an official game, I feel their sever not that good and don't have many ppl.

#9 Re: Main Forum » What is currently the main reason families die? » 2020-05-18 15:04:50

I usually witness big town die out because of no women. The reason for this is: there are low pop hour which very few players play the game. The game getting more boring, stressful and toxic. The number of players is halved compared to last year.
I found that newbies who eat all berries, carrots and do nothing much may faster the process of dying town but may not be the main reason for it. Newbies will get bore and actually will learn to do something.
Griefing also take a considerable participant of cause to dead towns. Especially at this moment, there are too many griefers, too many ways to grief too. I once being born at the edge of town by my mother who was hiding there from griefers. Once griefers lure bears to town and hid all bows. The most recent Twisted's video he has to deal with newbie grief. Even newbie found this game too boring to do anything but grief.

#10 Re: Main Forum » Unclaimable wells leading to abandoned towns en masse » 2020-05-18 11:55:22

FulmenTheFinn wrote:

Yes, riding around in a horse claiming abandoned well sites would be a problem. Ideally there'd be mechanisms preventing that.

It already has a solution for that: You need to use the well to claim it. Don't give Jason any more bad idea. tongue
Eve can have babies anywhere when you don't tap a well yet if Eve walk in to other family home land she cant have babies there. A family which have no home land maybe can have bb anywhere too, im not sure.
In your case the best choice is to make a new camp near that town and try to make an engine. Actually I'm not sure what the best choice is. The game is really suk atm and I intends to not playing it for now.

#11 Re: Main Forum » Unclaimable wells leading to abandoned towns en masse » 2020-05-18 11:38:33

There is no benefit to claim exhausted well because of no water.
If your town's well is exhausted it still counts as your family well, it is not abandoned well yet, you still can have homeland and babies.
If your family die out it turns to an abandoned well.

Edit: imagine someone riding horse all the map and easy claim all abandoned well

#12 Re: Main Forum » Unclaimable wells leading to abandoned towns en masse » 2020-05-18 11:28:32

What are you talking about???
It is already possible to claim all types of abandoned wells.
To claim a first-tier well you need a bowl, second-tier well you need a bucket, Newcomen well need rubber, engine well need oil to claim.
You need to use the well to claim it,

#13 Re: Main Forum » Jason just gave us the biggest tool to protect from bobo. » 2020-05-17 05:12:53

fug wrote:

This is like praising Hitler for killing Hitler.

Bobo is the problem and is just using whatever excuse he can as a means to pass the blame onto Jason. I mean fuck, did literally anything come of the Toxic situation with him phishing in the discord because another ban?

Easiest solution is just banning players like bobo to a curse server. Obviously we're not going to do this because it's better to allow bobo to run amok so Jason can keep wasting update weeks on balancing it around three asshats instead of advancing anything. I swore last month we'd be done with the github list and now it looks like we won't be done until August.

Bobo is not the problem. There are always grifer in the game. Can you ban them all? Ban them is not a solution. Even Jason know that. Don't Starve has troll, grief too but very few. They don't do griefing because it is boring than playing as usual.
The problem is the game itself which is handled by Jason. Nerf iron lead to you have use engine to mine iron, lead to engine can be moved and scrap. Buff bears lead to new way to grief...
All these update cause more problems than it solves. Don't even mention race restrictions, tool slot, all that crab.

#14 Re: Main Forum » Jason just gave us the biggest tool to protect from bobo. » 2020-05-17 03:19:18

Since Jason doesn't play his own game.
I think bobo is doing the right thing to show Jason how bad the game ATM. Number of players playing this game is half compare to last year.
Jason is too determine about his vision of his "fun" and "challenge". Each update brings more problems than it solve.
Someone should wake him up from his illusion.

#15 Re: Main Forum » Why I decide to quit this toxic game » 2020-05-16 01:17:06

StrongForce wrote:

This forum is an essential part of the game.
Yes someone could compute all the mechanics together that is true.

If you are leader the only thing you have to do right is choose your heir. Make sure he/she does too and that it is a player who knows how to spot another good player.

If you are not in the mood of learning this stuff in game you can read all the posts in news from bottom to top.
Of course only the first post from Jason explaining the update

I'm a steam player and I found that it took me quite an effort to join discord server then ask how to get the secret key to the forum, after that reading dozen up updates and topics just to play and doing boring repetitively task every singer game of ohol.
You cant expect players know everything in the game especially in this game which constant update and very complex. Every task for learning like join the discord, forum, watch youtube, one tech require a lot of effort.
In don't starve you just need to know very basic stuff. You make mistakes and learn to play better while playing the game. This game is not, you don't want to make a mistake while playing the game. Making an engine consume a lot of water, if you not familiar with that you may consume double amount of water or more.

#16 Re: Main Forum » Why I decide to quit this toxic game » 2020-05-15 14:08:45

StrongForce wrote:

If a griefer can kill the whole town noone is informed about how it works. That's the players fault. And especially the old leaders fault.

This is no one fault
No one playing the game all the time, know all about the update, know all about the game.
As you said if every one said I follow myself. Then what is the follow system for??? Why not just back to solo kill??
The problem is there are too many way to grief and we can't do anything about it. Even griefing is boring but still more fun than the game to some ppl.

#17 Re: Main Forum » Why I decide to quit this toxic game » 2020-05-15 13:14:56

The posse is complicated. Seem like it is related to the follower system which is a useless system. I don't want to understand it anymore. Just more and more complicated things. My town white fam got mass and easy killed by our king yesterday. Obviously it is not working as everything else.

#18 Re: Main Forum » Why I decide to quit this toxic game » 2020-05-15 13:03:41

November and December is Christmas occasion and the game may be on discount which explains the rise of the graph. We are now in the quarantine period which is ppl have time to play but they just don't want to play.

#19 Main Forum » Why I decide to quit this toxic game » 2020-05-15 11:17:23

minth
Replies: 71

First of all, I consider myself as some kind of veteran. I can do most of vital tasks like getting oil, smith, cook... Why do I have to make it clear that I'm not a beginner because that you could understand that I know a certain aspects about the game
Let's get started:
- There are too many griefers in the game. They are intended to ruins people's time. Each new update there are more ways to grief. Some ppl do this just because the game is boring to them, nothing to do. No fun in the game, no interesting tasks. Dealing with griefers is hard sometimes. It could make you mad or upset definitely not a great experience. 
- Griefers trying hard to ruin the game. They are very serious, they even do youtube channels, websites to fishing accounts. They doing all of that. They find that killing defenceless ppl, long boring lure bears, raising lame wild pigs even more fun and better than the game itself. 
- The game is too complicated and very hard to understand. New players eating all the berries, carrots, pepper and do nothing useful. Some task can be taught some don't. If they want to be useful they have to learn it and do research themself. In many cases new players curse veteran. They thought veteran destroy berries is bad, take some stuff like sulfur to another town is bad. The communication is suk so its very hard to explain to them.
- The game is no forgiven. I don't understand why we keep getting nerfed and make the game harder and harder. You need to make mistakes so you can learn but there is no forgiven in this game. If you eat too many berries, curse you, if you take stuff, curse you, I even got curse because I take stuff from my town to them and they thought I was stealing from them. If you spawn as EVE right now it is very hard, no food, have to check iron mine ...
- There is no room for creativity. You have to play the game exactly as Jason want you to play. Even we have difference races the process is the same. The white is completely useless which is a very bad game design. Why do you make a useless race??
- There is no purpose in the game. I thought it would be archive the highest tech and have fun. But nope, You constantly need to get oil which is a long and boring task. While you doing that your town got grief and got destroyed in 20 mins.
- The weekly update is also a good and a bad thing. I don't play this game for weeks and now I don't even know what the posse is??

Inconclusion the game just makes you mad, upset, stress, no fun, no forgiven no clear purpose and you always have to keep to its update even it good or bad. >> That is exactly a toxic game

#20 Re: Main Forum » Jason, what's OUR motivation » 2020-04-28 13:03:03

Like two months ago, I spent many lives to tribute to these two towns Brown and Ginger town (since black town keep dying) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twOZkai6Ciw&t=1276s
I was making and getting vital stuff like way stone, rubber, oil, mostly oil. The time was fun even getting oil is not that fun thing to do.
But now, I don't really have any reason to play. We keep getting worse and worse updates. Towns got grief too easy, all the hard works could be gone in 10 mins.
Even tho the game was very complicated and very hard to learn for most ppl, we keep getting nerfed!!!
    Iron nerf, wild food nerf >> making @Tarr have to keep spawn as Eve to making new mine >> what a terrible playstyle tongue Maybe Jason want us to play this way???
    Bears and boards got buff so the game could be more challenge? The challenge did not come from boards or bears but griefers those want to show Jason how bad the game at the moment
    And when I saw Mikas cheat sheet about Yum chain value, I realize yum was not that good compare to milk. We should get buff with Yum and foods since now mining is hunger work, instead of that we continue got nerfed LOL   
Is that the goal of the game is to archive high teach and having fun??. Unfortunately, a lot of ppl don't like playing in a big town because they have nothing to do. Instead of having more content making game more fun and interesting we keep getting nerfed and easier ways to get griefed. 

The game got nerf so much which lead to ppl getting cursed because they eat too many berries or feeding to many sheep??? A lot of hate for berries muncher who probably is newbies. Like no forgiveness no mistake allowed. What is fun about that?? Its feel like you only and can only play one way in this game.

#21 Re: Main Forum » The 3 cities April 2-3 » 2020-04-03 05:09:43

I went to two cities and they all got the engine gone.
I don't know where the third one is so can't go there.
Basically ginger town and brown town engines are both gone.
At least two EVE spawn in ginger town, we have no iron there to make a new engine and nothing to do there too. The update makes EVEs spawn closer is the reason I guess.

#22 Re: Main Forum » Yummers and MinMaxers ,I did the math for you! » 2020-04-03 05:04:05

I thought turkeys respawn?
Add a feather to the hat is useless anyway. You don't need all the feathers.

#23 Re: Main Forum » Yummers and MinMaxers ,I did the math for you! » 2020-04-03 03:57:39

If you have to use an excel sheet in the game you are too serious:v
Anyway thank for Miskas that now I know yum-chain is not that food efficiency (but still good tho)
Variety of food bring fun to the game don't force ppl to drink milk all-day
And where is my turkey? Is it the best food sources or what? No water consumed and an insane amount of food value

#24 Re: Main Forum » Scrap the Scrap Engine » 2020-04-03 03:30:40

Where is it idea come from?
The engine is the highest-tech item in the game why would you ever want to scrap that?

#25 Re: Main Forum » Coming soon: mining changes » 2020-04-02 10:35:12

Elsayal wrote:

You don't have to trade anything with ginger to get oil. In fact you don't need to trade because any ginger player can end in other tribe and would need kerosene. So they give it for free.

That is ridiculous, getting oil is freaking hard and boring it is also cost a lot of resources to do so. There is no way I giving oil for free unless you decide to thief from ginger and call it "free".
One oil rig I get like 11 tanks, I may give 2 for brown 2 for black keep them barely alive for their rubber. Use 1 tank for iron, 1 another tank is the cost for getting new oilrig running. The profit from one oilrig is 5 tanks for your town. I don't care about white ppl (they literally useless right now)
5 tanks are not much can only keep your town about half-day not going to give it free tho

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