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#1 2019-05-24 03:40:50

jasonrohrer
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PSA: You need to hold SHIFT and right-click to KILL now

That is all.

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#2 2019-05-24 03:47:48

RodneyC86
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Re: PSA: You need to hold SHIFT and right-click to KILL now

Nice, no more accidents and no one can claim to have done it by accident

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#3 2019-05-24 04:06:13

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Re: PSA: You need to hold SHIFT and right-click to KILL now

Oooooo nice


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#4 2019-05-24 14:53:39

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Re: PSA: You need to hold SHIFT and right-click to KILL now

This ought to be shown somewhere in client


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#5 2019-05-24 14:57:45

RodneyC86
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Re: PSA: You need to hold SHIFT and right-click to KILL now

Turnipseed wrote:

This ought to be shown somewhere in client

it is shown on the login screen, its just not very discrete

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#6 2019-05-24 14:59:42

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Re: PSA: You need to hold SHIFT and right-click to KILL now

Is killing sheep considered killing as well? Or just actually killing people

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#7 2019-05-24 15:02:47

jasonrohrer
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Re: PSA: You need to hold SHIFT and right-click to KILL now

Just killing people.

Killing sheep isn't handled by the engine as killing.  It's just an A+B = C+D transition.

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#8 2019-05-24 16:42:16

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Re: PSA: You need to hold SHIFT and right-click to KILL now

Can we ability to hold shift and click to destroy objects?


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#9 2019-05-24 18:43:15

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Re: PSA: You need to hold SHIFT and right-click to KILL now

I seemed to have to hold shift to kill turkeys with a bow and arrow, in that I didn't manage to kill a turkey without using shift.  It's also kind of awkward to hold shift and hit the '5' button on my keyboard, which I use instead of the left click on my mouse since it's broke... but it's still doable.  So, I'm not dissatisfied with this change, though I'm not so sure about not needing to hold shift to fire an arrow.

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#10 2019-05-24 20:35:51

Guppy
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Re: PSA: You need to hold SHIFT and right-click to KILL now

Played some lifes today that sadly included many griefers, and it didnt feel weird to use the new kill mechanic at all.

Alot of people were confused about why they couldnt stab people though, so maybe we need a little  thingy that pops up for a few seconds when you pick up a weapon to tell them?

But i guess the news are gonna spread anyway, so dont know if thats necessary

Last edited by Guppy (2019-05-24 20:39:21)

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#11 2019-05-25 03:11:35

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Re: PSA: You need to hold SHIFT and right-click to KILL now

Spoonwood wrote:

I seemed to have to hold shift to kill turkeys with a bow and arrow, in that I didn't manage to kill a turkey without using shift.  It's also kind of awkward to hold shift and hit the '5' button on my keyboard, which I use instead of the left click on my mouse since it's broke... but it's still doable.  So, I'm not dissatisfied with this change, though I'm not so sure about not needing to hold shift to fire an arrow.

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#12 2019-05-25 04:46:57

Spoonwood
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Re: PSA: You need to hold SHIFT and right-click to KILL now

Thanks for the suggestion and the joke Morti.  Take care.

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#13 2019-05-25 09:35:10

WalrusesConquer
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Re: PSA: You need to hold SHIFT and right-click to KILL now

Well now I know I was killed intentionally dammit..
Just showing you in the wilderness, and tjey just stabbed me ;-;


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#14 2019-05-25 15:38:38

pein
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Re: PSA: You need to hold SHIFT and right-click to KILL now

someone followed me for 20 straight minutes "hey" "hi" "hello"
told her to leave me alone
she was like "you are our slave , you do what we say"
i was a kid of an eve killed and old lady let me live

i was doing my business and this lil girl just harass me straight 20 min
then some idiot give her a knife
now i got a lot of experience dodging weapons, and i reacted in time, only that i needed to juggle her, well that's impossible since the come on top of you and anywhere you step you are dead

this removed a lot of skill from the game

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#15 2019-05-25 16:25:07

InSpace
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Re: PSA: You need to hold SHIFT and right-click to KILL now

Nice, always annoying with the accidental stabz

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#16 2019-05-25 16:30:02

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Re: PSA: You need to hold SHIFT and right-click to KILL now

Love this change!


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#17 2019-05-26 00:51:14

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Re: PSA: You need to hold SHIFT and right-click to KILL now

Got mauled by a bear today because of the shift thing, new to using it, so I ended up getting too close for comfort.... way too close. Is there a way to make that just for player targeting and not for animals?

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#18 2019-05-26 04:02:01

Tarr
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Re: PSA: You need to hold SHIFT and right-click to KILL now

Having actually played the update I do believe it's best for your every day player. Combat is no longer a dancing competition unless you're doing melee on melee (which is where you should get a snowball instead of risk being second to click.) Had someone try to shoot me today twice, first person tossed their bow down so I took their arrow, ended up shooting them after they tried to pull out a second arrow. Definitely feels nowhere near as good as before due to aimbot but this is clearly not meant for players who've played for a long time. Second person dropped their bow and afterwards I just grabbed it and talked some sense into them. Ended up giving up the bow and arrow as I just wanted to play around with the cheaper rails.

Swords/knives just end up being a secondary to the magic of snowballs. Snowballs also feel terrible to use now due to aim bot as it used to be about trying to walk someone through a choke point (diagonal behind/around trees generally being best) and taking their weapon once you got them to walk through where you wanted. Basically ranged combat has devolved into just not being near someone with a bow while melee combat is now a minigame of who is silly enough to follow the other to a snow bank/ who will get a snowball first.

While I think it's a good change so players can hopefully learn to defend themselves from a skill viewpoint it removed any skill from it. From a game play viewpoint changing the kill command basically makes more people willing to use it (in my experience) without players actively thinking if they should. Instead of trying to talk down and calm everyone violence was their first option both times and only after disarming someone and forcing the other person to become a zombie was I able to get people to get back to work instead of ree'ing about murder.


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#19 2019-05-26 12:05:38

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Re: PSA: You need to hold SHIFT and right-click to KILL now

I think I agree with Tarr. Saw Cris Wolf making a swastika in double bell town. I couldn't catch her, and she came back with snowballs, at which point I was too slow to escape.


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#20 2019-05-26 12:47:56

Twisted
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Re: PSA: You need to hold SHIFT and right-click to KILL now

Psykout wrote:

Got mauled by a bear today because of the shift thing, new to using it, so I ended up getting too close for comfort.... way too close. Is there a way to make that just for player targeting and not for animals?


It is just for player targeting, animal targeting is the same as before.

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#21 2019-05-26 16:16:43

pein
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Re: PSA: You need to hold SHIFT and right-click to KILL now

i was an intruder eve and got 6 people down, 1 was a horseman lady who i suppose could have kill me but gave her no choice
and then other lady who was tending to 2 sons
then old guy, old lady and finally the 2 kids from 2 different families
i see no difference, i didn't needed that magic shots

also i was killed twice with magic shots while moving
there is nothing signaling that someone will try to kill you and if someone has bad intention will get what he needs: distraction from your work, might kill you, you might kill him
anyway is a waste of time and useless drama
it just helps backstabbing

there should be a way to duel others without others interfering, invite people on a duel, the loser gets banished or dies
the winner cant be cursed or killed on cooldown

but at least we need a few seconds when someone comes at us with a weapon and we don't have one, so we can run away or some sort of one time shield
this isn't a game of skill now even less so, it's just a game of who has the intention to kill you

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#22 2019-05-26 17:29:41

Psykout
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Re: PSA: You need to hold SHIFT and right-click to KILL now

Twisted wrote:
Psykout wrote:

Got mauled by a bear today because of the shift thing, new to using it, so I ended up getting too close for comfort.... way too close. Is there a way to make that just for player targeting and not for animals?


It is just for player targeting, animal targeting is the same as before.


Odd it really felt like the arrow was not going off, maybe due to all the transitions of the hungry bear, but never felt like I had so many problems shooting one before. Granted don't use bows often.

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#23 2019-05-26 18:22:13

Spoonwood
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Re: PSA: You need to hold SHIFT and right-click to KILL now

Psykout wrote:
Twisted wrote:
Psykout wrote:

Got mauled by a bear today because of the shift thing, new to using it, so I ended up getting too close for comfort.... way too close. Is there a way to make that just for player targeting and not for animals?


It is just for player targeting, animal targeting is the same as before.


Odd it really felt like the arrow was not going off, maybe due to all the transitions of the hungry bear, but never felt like I had so many problems shooting one before. Granted don't use bows often.

I seemed to have the same problem hunting a turkey.

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#24 2019-05-28 14:18:41

pein
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Re: PSA: You need to hold SHIFT and right-click to KILL now

Some idiot stole my horse, once I aggroed on her I lost like 9 food pips and still killed herbl when ran through me

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