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The existence of griefers is inevitable in such a game, you can help by making griefing harder, not by complaining, but by making suggestions instead.

Mr Meeseeks, I think Azrael has a point.

If you want to fight toxic griefers, that's a good thing. But even when you're fighting for good (not just you, but anyone really), there's right and wrong ways to go about it. It seems that in this case, your actions resulted in making your battle itself the issue, and not the alleged griefing. And I don't see how the moderator could have acted differently. Being right isn't enough, the how is just as important as the why... welcome to the world of politics

Mr meeseeks wrote:

sigmen4020 wrote:

I'm just gonna leave these here:

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How about you fix yourself before trying to fix other people? Makes you look like an extreme hypocrite. I don't have much tolerance for griefers. That includes both you and jade.

I also find it funny that you hang out with ziv. A far worse griefer than jade. How about you stop being a massive hypocrite?

I don't "hang out with ziv."

But you already know that because I clearly said I denied his pm to end the arc.

Is this a slander campaign?

I literally told discord members that ziv asked me to help end the arc and I ignored... Hmmmm?

Big question is why he would even ask you in the first place.

I'm just gonna leave these here:

https://i.imgur.com/rL2hGSQ.png
https://i.imgur.com/tGv9MQv.png
https://i.imgur.com/Rhyev3r.png

How about you fix yourself before trying to fix other people? Makes you look like an extreme hypocrite. I don't have much tolerance for griefers. That includes both you and jade.

I also find it funny that you hang out with ziv. A far worse griefer than jade. How about you stop being a massive hypocrite?

You were extremely rude. Calling me toxic and saying that I needed to answer you. I blocked you because I didn’t want to hear how insulting you were being about how Ived griefed a couple times. You admitted that you griefed as well. Why is that any different. The mod was just doing their job, it’s your fault what happened. You should have dropped it the first, second, fourth time.

Killing sketchy people actually has the potential to trigger more griefing.   Being killed unjustly by someone who suspected you were a griefer is a very negative experience.  The kind of thing that might drive someone to hunt down the village where they were killed and take their frustration out on the entire family.

I prefer watching sketchy people and would prefer non-lethal ways to address minor behaviors.   Right now, if we want to stop someone from doing something, we can ask them to stop or we can stab them to death.  There's no middle ground.   It is a very polarizing situation.    I'd like to see additional ways to deal with people - like a weapon that can stun or disarm an attacker - or a "defensive weapon" that can only target someone who is already holding a bloody weapon.  This would make it much easier to identify the real culprit after a crime and decrease the cycle of violence that results in four or five people dying because of one murder.

Our player "tool box" for dealing with griefers is extremely limited.    Build a fence.  Arm yourself.  Watch everyone.   Stab anyone who looks sketchy.   Try not get get stabbed for stabbing someone sketchy ... repeat.

The game itself needs to provide some more options and it also needs to provide some kind of longterm consequences for people who have been routinely identified as disruptive by other players.    If someone has a sky-high curse score, they don't belong on BigServer2 with all the new players who are trying the game for the first time.   I don't want someone's first impression of this game to being watching their entire family get mauled to death by bears and wild boars.

How nice for you.   We killed our griefer too.   

They were the last member of the Name family, which died out shortly before I returned to Bear Town.  We made weapons, we fixed the fence.  It didn't matter.   The dead griefer was reborn as one of my children and griefed the town from within.   We killed him again ... and it didn't matter.  He had already killed Bean family in his last attack.   If that attack had failed, there would have been another and then another.   

Griefers do not have to build a functioning village or work together to survive.  If they die, the game gives them to a new village with a brand new identity and the freedom to start griefing immediately.   Death isn't a punishment.   It is a Reload button.   They just have to find the same village again, life after life, and break things until they win by attrition.   Steal all the buckets, kill the sheep, eat the last carrot, burn up all the firewood, steal the iron, hide the pads ... how long before the town can't bounce back fast enough?  Good luck building a diesel engine to save your town from a water/iron shortage while a griefer messes with the forge area.

It is so much easier to break than it is to build up.  OHOL's long and complex crafting systems make for interesting co-op PvE gameplay, but they also create dozens of critical bottlenecks that can be easily exploited by a clever asshole.  Sabatoge the right things and a town will be in serious danger of dying out long before most players are aware that something is wrong.   Even if you know that your town is being targeted by an active griefer, your options are limited to keeping them away using fences or killing them for a short reprieve ... and then killing anyone else who acts sketchy for the rest of your life, because killing the griefer just gives them a new name and a younger body somewhere else in the finite map.   

If you know where a town is located, you can easily walk back to the same town by the time you are old enough to pick up a bow.   Or you can just grief where ever you are born to spread the pain.   Every time someone dies because of your efforts, you "win" and people die a lot in OHOL.   How interesting. How fun. And so much easier than staying alive.   

No wonder we have serial griefers who kill towns, life after life.   There is no risk and the adrenaline rush of being sneaky and trying to kill as many girls as you can before you get caught must add to the sick enjoyment for them.