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pierce wrote:

Usually the ones who say them haven't got floored yet because they think they can get away with anything because they're all Freedom of Speech until Consequences show up.

"Got floored yet".  That sounds very telling.  What did you say up top "want to murder them" or something like that?  Look, you said that such people were talking words.  That's it.  WORDS!  Nothing more, nothing less.  And you talk about actions which in the real world would be physically harmful or deadly as justified in game.

It thus seems likely enough to me that you are (more like) the violent party looking for a scapegoat, or the person who escalates talking into fighting.  You aren't the Chris Rock making a joke that someone else dislikes.  You are more like the Will Smith who hears the joke (and laughs by the way), and then escalates the situation into illegal physical violence.

If you are talking about Jason, I think he was being dead serious.

But over the intervening years, my thinking about this game has changed somewhat.  More isn't necessarily better, despite what some players seem to want.  I had someone ask me for "garlic bread" in the Discord yesterday.  Would garlic bread make the game better?  Would that be a good use of my time?

As you are all aware, there is LOADS of so-called "dead content" in the game.  Which sounds more interesting?  Making garlic bread in the game, or breeding/evolving specific types of dogs from wild wolves?  Well, dog breeding is in the game, but people almost never do it.

You can say, "But the way dogs work isn't that interesting."  Yeah, of course.  If you're going to have 10,000 objects, most of the stuff is going to be somewhat simple.  10 different kinds of sushi, and that kind of thing.  You can play fetch with your dog!  And your dog follows you around!  And you can have a guard dog.  What else do you want it to do?  Herd sheep or something?  But sheep don't really need herding, right?

You can also PLAY POKER in the game, with the way the card decks work, but almost no one does that.
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So... adding "rabbit breeding" or "beekeeping" to the game, or whatever "side branch" you can think of, wouldn't make the game better.  It probably wouldn't make it worse, but most players would completely ignore that "useless" content after a short while, and I would have just wasted my time.

jasonrohrer wrote:

I have spent many weeks in the past piling on content.  While the existing players enjoyed the new content for a short time, the novelty kept wearing off in short order, and I was noticing that the playerbase was not growing as a result of these constant content additions.  It was kindof a steady state regardless of the amount of content added.

What kind of content are you talking about?

Tech gimmicks or more food recipes?
The OP and I are asking for none of the above.
We want useful content.

Otherwise, of course adding heaps of useless content to your game isn't going to keep people interested.
You might as well be spending your time adding decorations to the biomes..

Adding radios or planes doesn't allow us to climb the tech tree.
It's just yet another dumb useless item that you can waste resources on.

What people actually want is not 10,000 odds and ends, but a more tightly-crafted group of things that work together in interesting, complex, and emergent ways.

Well, unless it was an even more efficient way to getting food than the ways currently available.  Then it would replace something else, and render that older thing as dead content.

at least that stuff wasn't dead content that you could ignore.

People hang around here because of what this game might become, not because of some marketing we saw years ago.

Here's a link to that part of the chat, if you want to read it

You have yet to refute my main idea on civilization in OHOL with anything more than "I have 15 years of game designing experience and you don't".
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You hide behind a wall, you ignore the people who oppose you by assuming things about them like they just dislike you or that they're entitled or whatever you come up with this time around.
But I'm still there, my arguments unaddressed. You're still wrong.

i for my part read the steam comments first and bought a piece of art knowing what it is....