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#26 2019-11-07 08:47:20

arkajalka
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Re: whoever made the fort in the northeast part of map on snow...

Trying to silence online community, is dead effort. I see 100x more value in just keeping everything open.

Triggers get triggered. That SJW is never going to come to forums and discuss about symbolism and iconography. Ze just gonna log straight into some social network with dem hashtags #hatecrime #banhatespeech. Or even worse spam post suggestion about sexchange surgery content.

If someone gets offended by a symbol (or anything at all)i really think you dont even need that kinda persons around you.

People who are actually open minded and not condemn every freaking thing straight at a glimpse are usually the ones that make the world turn around. Invent new things, try different style of aproach and actually create something new (or tons of hitler dickbutts).

What has any SJW brought in to this world? Silenced opressed majority that is boiling inside provoking the next race war?

Dealing with tough issues by making fun of it is best way to deal with it.

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#27 2019-11-07 09:25:14

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Re: whoever made the fort in the northeast part of map on snow...

arkajalka wrote:

What has any SJW brought in to this world? Silenced opressed majority that is boiling inside provoking the next race war?

Dealing with tough issues by making fun of it is best way to deal with it.

You ever heard of the civil rights movement or women suffrage? I personally would consider that bringing something to the table...

You seem equally triggered by others being offended by a symbol. I agree society shouldnt be filtered or oppressed in their expression but CatX's referenced post makes a strong point. I recommend letting your personal offense go, bring up your valid point about the cultural aspects of symbols and freedom of expression and leave it at that. Attacking others for their beliefs and belittling them is just as distasteful as what you are offended by. Some might even call it a pathetic cry for attention...

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#28 2019-11-07 09:43:31

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Re: whoever made the fort in the northeast part of map on snow...

XD Human rights were invented way before sjw's and women have equal power to men if not even more.

Also how can i be triggered when im posting dick butts XD

Maybe if they would have had few sjw's running around back then they would have condemned speaking of giving women right to vote a hate speech and we wouldnt have that problem.


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#29 2019-11-07 09:53:12

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Re: whoever made the fort in the northeast part of map on snow...

arkajalka wrote:

Also how can i be triggered when im posting dick butts XD

Very logical, my mistake. Social justice has been around forever. Sure SJW is a new term but that doesnt mean the concept hasnt existed for a long time. Social justice warrior is a term for someone who fights for social justice. You keep bringing up all this social commentary and ideology and someone might be mistake you for one as well. wink

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#30 2019-11-07 09:57:59

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Re: whoever made the fort in the northeast part of map on snow...

Social justice warrior is a thing that fights for "freedom" no matter the costs. A opposite to adolf hitler. True evil of the left side.


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#31 2019-11-07 12:43:52

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Re: whoever made the fort in the northeast part of map on snow...

arkajalka wrote:

Getting offended by a geometrical pattern is non immersive and pathetic cry for attention.

Its just assembly of few tiles in 5x5 grid. There literally so many options to arrange them in a pattern that is not absolutely random jibberish.

Its one of the worlds most oldest symbols for a reason. Its shape is just playing around with 3x3 grid with rotation and multiplying.

Please dont bring your safe space to my territory. All this does is discourages roleplay and immersivenes in iconography.

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You’re entirely missing the point. It’s not so much the tiles, it’s the terrible mass murder that the tiles represent. This is actual horrible history. What if the descendant of a holocaust survivor were to see that? Do you have any idea how painful it would be to them to see their horrible history being mocked?
Also REEEE isn’t an argument. Grow a brain.


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#32 2019-11-07 12:48:45

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Re: whoever made the fort in the northeast part of map on snow...

arkajalka wrote:

Trying to silence online community, is dead effort. I see 100x more value in just keeping everything open.

Triggers get triggered. That SJW is never going to come to forums and discuss about symbolism and iconography. Ze just gonna log straight into some social network with dem hashtags #hatecrime #banhatespeech. Or even worse spam post suggestion about sexchange surgery content.

If someone gets offended by a symbol (or anything at all)i really think you dont even need that kinda persons around you.

People who are actually open minded and not condemn every freaking thing straight at a glimpse are usually the ones that make the world turn around. Invent new things, try different style of aproach and actually create something new (or tons of hitler dickbutts).

What has any SJW brought in to this world? Silenced opressed majority that is boiling inside provoking the next race war?

Dealing with tough issues by making fun of it is best way to deal with it.

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No, it’s really not. That’s like saying spamming the N word on deeeep.io is the best way to combat the US’s history of slavery and racism. Saying that it “deals with it” is just taking the easy way out. For some people the holocaust is really important/part of their history, though maybe it’s not part of yours, and seeing that might be painful for them, because it’s making a joke out of struggle.
I’m all for making giant dick sculptures and pieces of paper that say “u want sum fuk” but this is just gross.


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#33 2019-11-07 13:02:55

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Re: whoever made the fort in the northeast part of map on snow...

People who build swastikas in game dont do it because they are nazis, they do it to provoke people.
They do it so people get pissed and come to the forums and complain about it.
Then they laugh about you, every image you post about it gives them fame, every insult you throw at them joy.

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#34 2019-11-07 13:06:56

arkajalka
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Re: whoever made the fort in the northeast part of map on snow...

Whatever wrote:

People who build swastikas in game dont do it because they are nazis, they do it to provoke people.
They do it so people get pissed and come to the forums and complain about it.
Then they laugh about you, every image you post about it gives them fame, every insult you throw at them joy.

This XD. All these tears and sweat over the issue just gives it more value.

Laugh it off thats it. Nothing else need to be done.


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#35 2019-11-07 13:38:45

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Re: whoever made the fort in the northeast part of map on snow...

Whatever wrote:

People who build swastikas in game dont do it because they are nazis, they do it to provoke people.
They do it so people get pissed and come to the forums and complain about it.
Then they laugh about you, every image you post about it gives them fame, every insult you throw at them joy.

Yeah, well, many online communities hire moderators.
We're supposed to self police.
How do you suggest we do that?

Arkajalka:
All you're doing is proving that the forum ought to be moderated.
Edit: It is. I reported your post.

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#36 2019-11-07 13:52:10

arkajalka
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Re: whoever made the fort in the northeast part of map on snow...

CatX wrote:
Whatever wrote:

People who build swastikas in game dont do it because they are nazis, they do it to provoke people.
They do it so people get pissed and come to the forums and complain about it.
Then they laugh about you, every image you post about it gives them fame, every insult you throw at them joy.

Yeah, well, many online communities hire moderators.
We're supposed to self police.
How do you suggest we do that?

Arkajalka:
All you're doing is proving that the forum ought to be moderated.
Edit: It is. I reported your post.

Oh wow XD whatever. If this is really the direction this forum takes then im all fine being banned.


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#37 2019-11-07 18:16:00

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Re: whoever made the fort in the northeast part of map on snow...

What heals tragedy is time. Joking about it and trying to dilute it isnt going to do anything. The scars from history last a long time and take a while to fade. Trying to normalizing it is a distasteful and naive effort.

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#38 2019-11-08 00:42:10

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Re: whoever made the fort in the northeast part of map on snow...

Yeah, even very anything-goes conservative game devs tend to not permit this type of stuff because of the German law stuff. Even posting images of it in the forums is risky in terms of getting the game into some legal heat in German courts if anyone in Germany is paying for it (they probably are) so just don't be a dick and draw dicks instead

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#39 2019-11-08 01:47:39

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Re: whoever made the fort in the northeast part of map on snow...

Toxolotl wrote:

What heals tragedy is time. Joking about it and trying to dilute it isnt going to do anything.

Actually joking about it may be good. Vsauce once made a video about it I believe, it was pretty smart.


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#40 2019-11-08 03:34:07

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Re: whoever made the fort in the northeast part of map on snow...

> Dealing with tough issues by making fun of it is best way to deal with it.

This can be true if you're dealing with some of your own pain and you're trying to come to terms with it.. by doing stand up comedy or something.

But when you're "dealing" with other people's pain, not your own, it feels a bit disingenous to even calling it "dealing" with it. You're not dealing with it. You're poking at it.

We are all human, we all have pain. However, not everyone's button for pain is visible, or easily brought to the surface with symbols. If you have an invisible button for pain, the benefit is, other people can't press it. That's the real distinction here.

..off topic - the other side of that coin, is that having an invisible pain can be really alienating, because maybe people think you aren't suffering. So you suffer alone.

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#41 2019-11-08 03:47:12

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Re: whoever made the fort in the northeast part of map on snow...

Go down to a courthouse and watch family, divorce, or protection order courts. We execute innocent people in what country I assume most of you are from. We hand out protection orders like candy. It's rife with abuse. If you believe an innocent man has a chance in any of those courts you are completely wrong. As a result bad women are ruining the reputations of good men for their own gains.

Sir, you have not committed a crime so we won't prosecute you. We can't afford that sort of due process. But, here, you have a summons for the same offense to a courtroom where the prosecutor is your accuser and the judge wants to keep his job. Also, the courtroom doesn't have jurisdiction, the judge thinks due process was at an ex parte hearing, and they will apply the law incorrectly.

Government is taking inches of our freedom forever.

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#42 2019-11-08 23:10:44

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Re: whoever made the fort in the northeast part of map on snow...

Nobody:

The off-topic yet opinionated sexist:

mensrea wrote:

Go down to a courthouse and watch family, divorce, or protection order courts. We execute innocent people in what country I assume most of you are from. We hand out protection orders like candy. It's rife with abuse. If you believe an innocent man has a chance in any of those courts you are completely wrong. As a result bad women are ruining the reputations of good men for their own gains.

Sir, you have not committed a crime so we won't prosecute you. We can't afford that sort of due process. But, here, you have a summons for the same offense to a courtroom where the prosecutor is your accuser and the judge wants to keep his job. Also, the courtroom doesn't have jurisdiction, the judge thinks due process was at an ex parte hearing, and they will apply the law incorrectly.

Government is taking inches of our freedom forever.


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#43 2019-11-09 01:24:41

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Re: whoever made the fort in the northeast part of map on snow...

Yeah with 95% of convictions a result of plea deals for fear of getting extended jail time the criminal legal system gets no love from me, but it's an odd thing to focus on protection orders... For women I know who've had to file them, there were some abusive men on the other side.. And all it's saying is you can't go near them, right?

In any case, not sure what any of that has to do with the current topic!

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#44 2019-11-09 01:28:33

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Re: whoever made the fort in the northeast part of map on snow...

I believe I handled it in game.  I erred in thinking I would find support from the mods and the edge lords in the OHOL community. 

Can we lock this thread now?  It's gotten ugly.

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#45 2019-11-09 02:23:17

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Re: whoever made the fort in the northeast part of map on snow...

karltown_veteran wrote:

Nobody:

The off-topic yet opinionated sexist:

Yawn. Offered a real perspective on the state of the court system. Hardly sexist.

Edit: Pointing it out may not help you. But a reply like yours adds nothing to any dialogue. Language is already a terrible medium for discussion which requires back and forth conversation to think to come to an understanding. Your disparaging remark is a wasteful tactic. If you disagree and care to state so is productive. To state why is more productive. To make a wild leap to an accusation says something about the quality of your mind.

And I think naziism and SJW in what I think the words mean is relevant to my post. I think they are known to attack the individual more than the ideas.

Also, to point out veteran status in your handle is baffling. Either you are illogically confident that your use of the handle will be in a way that all veterans approve or you think the status changes what people think about your statements. The way you sling insults, makes me think it's the latter.

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#46 2019-11-09 10:33:30

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Re: whoever made the fort in the northeast part of map on snow...

Keyin wrote:

National socialists only used the symbol for 9 years, the symbol has been used on pretty much every continent by all sorts of cultures since as far back as our records go.

The NSDAP used it for ~25 years, circa 1920-45.

Over here in Finland we still have it in a bunch of places, mostly military-related, but you can also see it in older architecture, furniture, paintings and whatnot. Our president's flag, highest-ranking military medals, air force squadron flags, paratrooper and other unit flags, several county coat of arms, etc. all still have it. See here for more info and pics: http://www.virtualpilots.fi/feature/art … _swastika/

That being said, obviously someone building one in OHOL is being edgy or pulling a joke. But who cares? Personally I find a bunch of little girls getting triggered by a type of cross hilarious.


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#47 2019-11-09 11:35:15

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Re: whoever made the fort in the northeast part of map on snow...

FulmenTheFinn wrote:

Personally I find a bunch of little girls getting triggered by a type of cross hilarious.

Yeah, cause there's nothing childish about quotes like this at all.

OHOL should be a game for everyone. People who are triggered by people who want it to be a game for everyone should take a good look in the mirror.

I'm in favor of closing this thread.

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#48 2019-11-09 12:44:34

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Re: whoever made the fort in the northeast part of map on snow...

A group of guys triggered by the fact that some people disapprove of a prominent symbol of mass genocide and antisemitism.

People should just move on if they see someone doing stupid shit like this in-game. Commit suicide or kill them or leave the town. Don't post on the forum. Like others have said, trolls thrive off of your attention and raising concerns like this virtually does nothing but fan the flames. Move on.

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#49 2019-11-09 13:00:54

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Re: whoever made the fort in the northeast part of map on snow...

Racism bad Minecraft good


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