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I think I have to agree with forman here - There are definitely many situations where a sudden overtake of male births leads to the demise of a town. I have seen this plenty of times myself. I think the issue might be less so the ratio of male:female births, but rather the criteria that leads to such a wave of male births.

From my experience, males tend to start popping up when there is a sufficient quantity of fertile females available. However, what I believe might be an unaccounted factor (just based on my experience) is how close said fertiles are to becoming infertile at 40 years old. So for example, take into account the twins/triplets/quads system. Suppose a town has a quad birth, and all four are female. This would make a "ticking time bomb" of infertility, where up until the group gets old, the game might think there are still plenty of fertile females, and continue to push boys into the family. Then, when the quads turn 40, all of a sudden we transition from plenty of fertiles to little to none.

What I can suggest is something like this - a system that not only takes into account the quantity of fertiles in a town, but also takes into account the average amount of time left before all current members of the family are infertile. So for example, say we have an average town of 10 people. We have 4 males, and 6 females. Most of the females are in their 30's, and one maybe in their 20's or younger. There might be a lot of "fertile females", however the average remaining time left of fertility would be skewed to be low, therefore serving as another potential trigger for more females to be forced into the family.

I am of course open to critique on this idea. This is just a rough draft of a potential change that could be made to improve the chances of families outliving the "male curse" as I like to call it.

While what destiny said is 100% on target I do wonder if I could come up with some new designs in future artificial towns. I’ll have to give it some thought as I agree that while 3x3 is efficient it’s also stale.

Sure, pathetic may be closer to the meaning I wished to convey, but I feel my sentence stands just fine as it is.

We really don't need to dissect our sentences to enforce 100% perfect English usage, do we? Let's try to stay on topic.

Unfortunately as long as the developer views griefing as a legitimate playstyle, this trend will continue.

The biggest problem I have is that the griefer pair isn't using traditional methods for killing a town, the are exploiting and abusing non-intuitive and vague systems in order to be able to freely kill as they please. I'm actually a lot more tolerant of say, your typical sheep or bear griefer, than I am this nonsense. At least bears you can prepare for, deal with. Sheep, you can repopulate easily. Leadership system grief is beyond lame.

Edit: I should clarify that I'm NOT saying I tolerate any form of grief, I'm merely saying that those are much more predictable and, probably intended, ways to grief in the game.

This, this, THIS!

Curses last 90 days now so it may be quite a long time...depends if those who cursed you are online at the time. Did you intentionally get people to curse you?

I made the same mistake but was able to forgive lol

Hindsight 20/20, I was too trusting to the community I guess. It's a damn shame. Thankfully I didn't see them saying anything bad or trying to give me a bad rep, but still...

I wouldn't necessarily say it's "reasonable" to acquire these items as an eve, or in an eve camp, but to my knowledge a craving does not hurt the player in any way, and they can continue to yum like normal. Additionally, as generations pass with the craving unfulfilled, it will get stronger, and as a result will provide later benefit once contact is established with other towns. So I would say, it's reasonable to get cravings every few gens perhaps, but certainly not always in one life, or multiple in one life for that matter.

Edit: I would say that a player shouldn't expect themselves to be able to get a craving fulfilled, but rather treat it as a bonus if you happen to get it. Although, I could picture cravings being more critical as food values go down in late gens.

First and foremost welcome to the game and the community, I hope you stick around for a while and have some good experiences

That being said, I am thinking you might have found my thread addressing new players, and if that's the case I'm glad it helped you discover low pop. It may not seem it at first but you can actually have a genuinely great experience playing single player on low pop servers, or even with a few friends if you decide to go that route. Here's some unwritten rules you may not know about low pop (which constitutes as a server with 15 or less players online):

1. There are no racial based restrictions. This means any race can access resources in any biome.
2. No tool slots. This means no matter your gene score, you can use as many tools as you like over the course of a lifetime, meaning you can be quite the jack of all trades.
3. If you die of old age at 60 years old as an Eve (for the record, Eve is when you spawn as a just barely fertile girl, not as a baby), your next eve spawn on that server will be in the same general location. This allows you to replay the same location over and over again to continue development in a singular location. Beware though, if you die of any other cause (starvation, animal, etc), you will lose your Eve spawn and may struggle to find your home again.

Otherwise, considering the state of the game as it stands, you're on the right track IMO. I also learned on low pop even to the point of making diesel engines, pumping oil for kerosene, etc. (you will discover later how important these things are).

I 100% agree though, the game was not prepared for the influx of players (well rather, new players in general), and I do hope Jason makes tweaks in the future to be more newbie friendly (ESPECIALLY re-vamping the tutorial)

Bear in mind spoon once again, I speak under the presumption that Jason will not change anything, which is pretty likely. I mostly speak of things that we, the playerbase can do, rather than dwell on what Jason could/will/probably won't do. If you will, a "play the cards your dealt" perspective. At the end of the day I agree that these things should be tweaked, especially for new players. The idea of decreasing the pip drain for any new players is one I support, for example.

Thank you both for the information. I already knew that an update =/= wipe, but with every new spawn being an eve town I suppose I just assumed there could have been one. I'll adjust my post to reflect this a bit more accurately.

@Rookwood, you have to forgive me for how I reacted to you. I suppose I had thought established towns would have held up a bit more to the wave but I guess nothing does right now. Sadly this kinda just confirms what I've thought for a while, that Jason's updates cater to the vet crowd and them alone, leaving the new players in the dust.

I guess at the end of the day the only real solution is the new playerbase getting more proficient. Still think low-pop is the way to go for that one personally.