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The game start dying with donkey town update, split the server between pvp and not pvp, then let people decided, if i can play the game as it use to be, then i may give it another shot.
Every time i enter this game, i cant even stand to play for more than 1 hour, its been downhill since donkey town update.
Jason, donkey town has make many of us leave the game. So the fact that people that still post in these forums are in favour of it, does not mean that it is a fair system, not even a good one.
I will give you a different perspective.
-With donkey town you are force into a style gameplay.
You can't roleplay , i have been cursed because i was "lazy", i was cursed because of building a temple "wasting resources", i was cursed because for being a guard, and for talking to much.
Many people in this game wants you farming 24/7 , if you are not efficient then you are a "sponge".
I dont want to play that way, specialy on big towns were you have 130 pies that no one will ever eat.
-Punishment is badly implemented, you are force to play nothing to get your ban off. Can you imagine any other game with a system like this one? Beeing force to play CS alone for 2 hours?
If you want a ban system, then it should be like every other game, you are ban for a day or a week or a month.
But forcing the player to stare a wall its almost evil.
-Your are being banned because of gameplay and not because of using a third party software that gives you an advantage over the other cities/people.
How come zoom mod is ok?
-its remove every danger/animals in the game
-it make finding a spot as an eve a pieace of cake
-you can see the whole city in 3 seconds
-Resource gathering is a whole lot easier.
but roleplaying or mudering gets you banned?
-There are better ways, you can make murdering imposible, like if you kill then the movement penalty is permanent until someone "heal" you.
You can make an icon for donkeys, and people can decide if they keep it or not. Like if they are linage ban from every city an eve might want to keep a cursed kid.
Donkey is a stupid , unfair and extreme.
It makes the game a big brother distopia, like in 1984!
And yes, a lot of noobs, based on the behaviour of current users will end on it, and many of them will quit instantly.
I think this is a nice solution! Now you need another great idea for donkey town replacement.
Sovietico21 wrote:Before the donkey patch server one was full, and server two had like 20 people.
Today we have a population of 30 to 40 people.
If you keep restricting players freedom and anoying them with bullshit, and wait lines there will be almost no people left here.Only making one post to feed the troll.
Basically, we're having player drop off not because of donkey town but because the lack of meaty updates. The last three weeks have basically just been bugfixes which don't change any sort of gameplay, followed by emotions which didn't add anything besides some little rp fun. We've basically gone a full month without any game changers which means people are going to get bored of the game. Even before all these little things we had two new models (doesn't change gameplay but always welcome), tree farming (very needed but you never see the work you put into trees unless reborn) and then dogs and donkeys (dogs were a pain in the ass for multiple weeks).
The population didn't get slashed in half because you can't get away with griefing without some sort of repercussion but because nothing has really changed within nearly two months. Cows are okay, railways aren't coded optimally so they're very niche, paper can be fun but doesn't change core aspects, and I've already mentioned the other updates.
You can't exactly expect people to play this game forever without things getting update changes, there is only so many things you can do in OHOL. You are bound to run out of things to do and at that point you should probably take a break from the game until things change a bit. I know I personally take small breaks from the game whenever it starts to get stale and come back with fresh faced ready for the new content.
TL;DR- Player drop off is from two months of the same thing, not from a bunch of donkeys leaving the game.
Well thats an opinion, i think almost all the players who were sent to donkey had quit probably.
No one will stare a screen for hours to get a ban out of his account.
Pd: plus im not a troll, i want the game that i bought not to derrail.
Sovietico21 wrote:Yes it would be great, with donkey town population went from 100 to 40, with this plan you will have 10 people playing...
How is the time in the city of the donkey?
This is not true, the population of players is the same as it was months ago ...
Only the heavy and annoying players who do not know how to play in collaboration with other players have been sent to a server very far away.
It is true, i often check the webpage to see if there are enough people to play, because if there are only 30 players it mean i will spawn over and over in two or three towns.
http://onehouronelife.com/reflector/ser … ion=report
Before the donkey patch server one was full, and server two had like 20 people.
Today we have a population of 30 to 40 people.
If you keep restricting players freedom and anoying them with bullshit, and wait lines there will be almost no people left here.
Yes it would be great, with donkey town population went from 100 to 40, with this plan you will have 10 people playing...
Thats because living in a town sucks, it is boring and unchalenging, even when you try to add color to the town by creating some sort of rol or drama, some of the people there might not like it and curse you until you are banned. So why risk it?
Just suicide until you find a place where you are challenged by the situation.
Sovietico21 wrote:People who cheat and get third party software to get and advantage over the rest should be in donkey town!
Yeah let's punish people that aren't doing anything to harm the game, yet let's forgive and allow racism, seems very reasonable. The game is COOPERATIVE you are not playing against anyone, so there is no advantage to be had.
It's like us going to play lego and I bring my bag of lego to your house and then you cry "That's not fair! Now we can build bigger things! wahhhh"
Sovietico21 wrote:People who cheat and get third party software to get and advantage over the rest should be in donkey town!
how exaclty is cheating ? this is a cooperative game, if one player has one advantage, the whole city benefits from it
It brings the end game sooner to all the villages, it brings down the challenge of the game for all of the players living in a village.
The joy of this game is the danger of having your village wipe out by a lot of factors. And one skillfull player with hack vision defeat many of this dangers.
I want to play a challenging game, i want grieffers in my town, i want noobs in my town, i want animals to be a threat, because all of that give the game meaning to me.
When you reach the end game, wich is quite fast, the game gets dull, so why on earth do i want to rush this?
People who cheat and get third party software to get and advantage over the rest should be in donkey town!
You just can rise your voice against this stupid patch! Donkey Town is stupid, and we should find another way to punish grieffers.
Sovietico21 wrote:FeverDog wrote:Well racism doesn't exist either in the U.S. "except if you are dumb and believe everything."
If you think racism doesn't exist in Europe, you're nuts. It also exists in South America, East Asia, Southeast Asia, South Asia and, yes, Africa. The particular form it takes in America is obviously specific to America but try visiting Southeast Asia as a Pakistani. Try visiting Eastern Europe or China as an African. Try visiting Japan as anything other than Japanese. Try coming in from the countryside into urban Africa. Try finding a spouse if you're a dark skin Indian other than another dark skin Indian. Tell an Arab from the northern suburbs of Paris that racism is only an American problem.
Racism takes many different forms and is highly specific to context, country, the people being racist and the people being shit on.
Well i live in South America, and no, racism is not the same here, as it is in the Usa, here the word nigger is not offensive, in fact it doesnt mean anything. Then i ask you, why should we adapt to whatever social rule there is in the Usa?
I feel realy offended that you think you have the right to censor us, since you do not own the universal truth.Like FeverDog says, racism comes in every different shape and every country has them. They might be different for each of them. Even every individual sees a thing as racist or not, they might be offended by it or don't even care.
But just because we don't see something as racist, doesn't mean another person does too. That someone might be hurt and be offended by your words or actions.
I don't think that it's a form of censuring a word that for you isn't a big deal. It is a big deal for a lot of people and we should respect that.
If the Japanese take off their shoes before entering their homes, you should respect that and do it too when visiting. If the people of an island in Indonesia have a tradition that on a certain day, no one is allowed to leave their houses during a certain time, you should respect that and stay at home. If your friend gets hurt because you called them fat, you should respect their feelings and stop calling them that. If a group of people doesn't want you to use the N Word, you should respect that.
This game isn't very different from the world we live in. We all come from different countries, with different believes and cultures, hopes and dreams, with only one goal in common : playing this beautiful game and rebuilding civilization, together and with respect for each of us.
Just because you can't SEE the person playing your uncle, doesn't mean you can through all your respect for them overboard and call them names that might hurt them.
Fair enough! but where is the limit? How much knowledge you have about what may or not offend certain nationality, as i told you before, i can keep my mouth shut, about a word that has no meaning to me, but why it has to be imposed to me, like in this thread, a policy that does not belong to me and i feel not responsible for.
I feel that you give the matter importance by always bringing the issue upon other people, if you let it flow like nothing happens, it would fade away quite quickly.
TrustyWay wrote:As an european, this kind of thread about races are always funny. This is such an american problem, but you extended your problem world wide. Where I live racism doesn't exist except if you are dumb and believe everything.
Well racism doesn't exist either in the U.S. "except if you are dumb and believe everything."
If you think racism doesn't exist in Europe, you're nuts. It also exists in South America, East Asia, Southeast Asia, South Asia and, yes, Africa. The particular form it takes in America is obviously specific to America but try visiting Southeast Asia as a Pakistani. Try visiting Eastern Europe or China as an African. Try visiting Japan as anything other than Japanese. Try coming in from the countryside into urban Africa. Try finding a spouse if you're a dark skin Indian other than another dark skin Indian. Tell an Arab from the northern suburbs of Paris that racism is only an American problem.
Racism takes many different forms and is highly specific to context, country, the people being racist and the people being shit on.
Well i live in South America, and no, racism is not the same here, as it is in the Usa, here the word nigger is not offensive, in fact it doesnt mean anything. Then i ask you, why should we adapt to whatever social rule there is in the Usa?
I feel realy offended that you think you have the right to censor us, since you do not own the universal truth.
Yes please, just erase the hunger bar, let us live for ever, expand the living age up to 1000.
To VioletLily, this is from another post but answers the last part of your post.
Obs wrote:The game is designed to run in a 16:9 letterbox at a 1280x720 scaled resolution, so I don't think there's anything wrong with your particular setup or that it's all that much different than anyone else. It will even attempt to draw "black bars" across the top and bottom to create this letterbox on a 4:3 aspect ratio, as you might also see in some screenshots.
About the rest of your post, you are completely right. This game we don't really compete against each other so, we aren't cheating against other players by doing, this isn't a competitive game after all. If you wanted to, you could say that we are cheating against the game and to that I say that we aren't really cheating, we are simply making the game balanced again, the game already cheats by making you able to be killed by stuff you can't control. Dying by stuff you can't control is a cheap way to add difficulty.
Well, lets say we are playing counter-strike against bots, all humans are on the same team but you have cheats, so you end up killing all the bots by yourself and the other players cant participate in the action. So yes, you are making the game worst for the rest of the players by having an advantage.
As an european, this kind of thread about races are always funny. This is such an american problem, but you extended your problem world wide. Where I live racism doesn't exist except if you are dumb and believe everything.
I don't excuse these people that use the word nigger in an aggressive way. Still, we are so limited with letters that we can't know if it is really racism or trolling. Bzt anyway if it hurts people you should stop.
It isn't like it should never ever be allowed because it depends of people listening to you. For exemple If you have a room full of black people wanting you to do racist jokes on them, then do it, if they don't, don't do it.
ShadouFireborn wrote:I would argue that even using them in an ironic way is still flippant and makes people view you as rude or uninformed. There is no reason to use racial slurs, no matter what the context is. You know what the word means, you know how people feel about the use of the word. Even if you think you're using it 'ironically', you're still using it.
Just don't use it.
Even if I said "don't" too just before I dont agree now x)
My fellow black pal calls himself friday, my arab mates call themselves terrorists, my teacher calls them terrorists and we call him back nazi. Or tell girls to watch out for their beards since they are protugeses. And we have a good laugh at the end. But don't do that with people you don't know.
We aren't supposed to feel offended by everything. I'm not saying you shouldn't be offended by slurs but at least make the difference when it is serious or ironical (aka retard). People call me too things I might not like but I get over it.
There was a time when people didn't want to hear something, they just stop listen instead of messing even more.
True, the way the act with that issue is mind blowing, plus they just cant grasp that in the rest of the world it is just not acceptable to ban a word, and the issue is not as complicated as it is in their country.
Sovietico21 wrote:This, exploits and cheats like this should be always banned, Jason has taken the path to complice with the people that want everthing fed to their mouth, donkey town is an example of this policy and bias. If game is meant to be fair and challenging and donkey town was just a step in that direction then this should be banned at all cost.
I am fine with games being challenging. I love a challenge. I am the kind of person who dives headfirst into the hardest mode offered when starting a game.
The reason I use zoom mod is because animals coming out of nowhere can't be considered a challenge as there is nothing I can do to prevent it, as I said in my post. If that one thing could be fixed, I would have no reason to use a zoom mod. Maybe add animal tracks to tell you one is in the area so you can find another way around? Just something so I don't die in a random 'lightning strike from God' kind of way. I already avoided areas with a lot of trees and kept a close eye out, but it wasn't enough. There was never enough time for me to act. I see the animal and I'm dead. I should be able do something to help me live before I die. As it is, skill doesn't come into play when an animal goes after you from the top/bottom of the screen, and that is a game-breaker for me.
There are biomes where there are no dangerous animals, the green, yellow and snow areas. Plus when on swamp, dessert or tundra, then walk slowly, i travelled lots of km without getting hit by anything, done a lot of eve runs without it also.
Its not that hard to not get hit by an animal.
Sometimes you will get hit, thats the point, thats the rol dangerous animals fulfill. But if you know what you are doing then those will be the less.
I personally think that having way too far eyesight on surroundings beats the game's challenge whatsoever. The boar that you spotted, the griefer that you saw red handed, the resources that you thought weren't there are actually near you.
I don't want to be a dick, but it beats the purpose of having skill of remembering the surroundings. Remembering where is the danger etc. It makes the game in my opinion almost unplayable from own perspective, when almost everyone knows where to go, know where not to go, knows resources without asking etc.... people communicate less with each other when everyone knows what there is to it. Even griefers cannot get away with it when there is someone who has programmed eagle eye on their usage. It beats the purpose of OHOL of being actually challenging! It makes all the achievements you make feel less like it was worth anything.
But if I am really honest... 1,5x is not bad idea... 2x and over is too much. OHOL is meant to be a survival game that actually challenges your playstyles from your previous experiences, not because you can see everything and do all necessities without scouting first. It's stupid, and if it was possible, it should be prevented.
Edit: If you really want to go being cheater and enjoy game, go play Slither.i.o or some other game that have cheators like you who use zoom out to spot other enemies... I personally stop playing OHOL since people use this to benefit zoomout. Since I wanted OHOL to stay difficult... if this mod ever becomes official... I'd even wish for a refund.
This, exploits and cheats like this should be always banned, Jason has taken the path to complice with the people that want everthing fed to their mouth, donkey town is an example of this policy and bias. If game is meant to be fair and challenging and donkey town was just a step in that direction then this should be banned at all cost.
This is deux ex machina. Family lines are supposed to fade away. Without challenge it would not be fun
But checking family tree might be useful. Lets enable ugly faces for incest in like 5th generation. Kids of Adam and Eva should not be punished for it.
Yes, stop with the hand holding updates please
Sovietico21 wrote:The point of the game is to build a legacy, you cant by playing single player.
The core features of the game are taken away from you in donkey town.If you really play to build a legacy and you manage to end up in Donkey Town anyway - there is something really wrong with the way you try to build that legacy. Basically - people don't like you. Its up to you to figure out why. Maybe next time you get cursed, ask why?
I am not in donkey town... you are assuming that. I started at donkey town because i was cursed when the patch was implemented, i was cursed because i asume a rol in advanced town, like a lunatic or messiah, and build altars to myself, people got mad and i got cursed.
You did not adress the point i make in the previous post.
And please feel free to replay, if Jason is to have so much power over the lives we live online, then why he is not giving us the ability to curse fleeing babies, they are against the spirit of the game as it is expressed in the main webpage
"I can be born again, but I can never live this unique story again. Everything's changing. I'll be born as a different person in a different place and different time, "
Sovietico21 wrote:Donkey town is now worse than a ban. The cost is so high, that no one will risk it, probably the ones who do not post in the forum and got to donkey town already quit the game.
You can build all you want in Donkey Town. It's only "worse than a ban" if all you want to do is destroy, and if that is the case then it is exactly where you belong.
The point of the game is to build a legacy, you cant by playing single player.
The core features of the game are taken away from you in donkey town.
Game now:
- Born 4 out of 5 times in an advanced town of the same people.
- Do not create drama or you will get cursed.
- If you do spawn on an eve encampment, its always doomed, 5 of the 7 babys will run, cause they are probably playing with the servers feudal families. (its very easy to suicide and spawn in these towns)
How to fix:
Since the game changed direction and now it punish unwanted behavior by design, and since the game spirit is to live a random life and not to choose one.
Then we need a method to punish running babies and curse them, so they are forced to stay and help his mother if she takes care of them.
This will solve the issue of "i want to play in my own/friends town" and actualy live a random life.
MultiLife wrote:But you'd like to have game mechanics which would add spice to the game without being annoying sabotage? I think griefers want to sabotage, they don't want to entertain others. They are just people who want to bother others with big and small annoyances. They are not roleplayers looking for ways to make interesting stories, they are players who are there to maximize damage to a town.
While I agree there are grievers and their mission is sabotage- for those who are simply bored- a new set of end goals to entertain them - ie the role of the 'bad guy'. They can develop a town of horses and weapons and take off for the regular towns
And then for the regular players-- their city planning has to evolve to protect from outsiders-- now if you want a bell, you'd pretty much want to encase your city first.
The need for security in the community adds significant game play without really too much additional content. The necessity of security against external treats- pressures players for more team work- and in real life this is largely what borne kingdoms.
In reality this game has PvP options, so PvP will happen---- I really wish Jason recognized the need to try to atleast implement the most obvious steps in an attempt to balance it. PvP is a really hard thing to truly balance so that it's fun for both players. Right now, we're in a fortunate place where grievers are becoming less and less of an internal threat.
Also TIL that was how it works. *shrug* I take breaks when im bored of the game
They wont, just listen to the post of those who exploite the game for their own porpuse, they want to play the game their way, and Jason give them tons of consessions, no one would risk to piss anyone off because that means being banned, and have to stare the game without doing nothing for hours.
Donkey town is now worse than a ban. The cost is so high, that no one will risk it, probably the ones who do not post in the forum and got to donkey town already quit the game.
What the guy is using is hardly a bot its probably a macro, you can get by with some minors fixes, the thing is only one guy, if some other smarter dude gets on the rat race of defeting the defenses, then it will be a never ending task for one guy and will hurt the progresion of his work on other updates. Jason need to realice donkey town is not the way to go, at least not yet.
threatening for whom? Do you know how many cursed people are in donkey town? Probably one or two at the same time.
The glitching and abuse of game mechanics hurt the whole server.
The bias wich this forum is guided with, hurt my stomach. How about baning the zoom mod also? Or the people who make a guide on how to glitch bears?