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#1 2020-05-30 09:43:43

Arcurus
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What is the difference between Loose Muddy Iron Vein and Iron Vein?

What is the difference between Loose Muddy Iron Vein and Iron Vein?

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#2 2020-05-30 11:06:18

JackTreehorn
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Re: What is the difference between Loose Muddy Iron Vein and Iron Vein?

Loose muddy iron you can pickup by hand and iron vein you would need to use a pick.


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#3 2020-05-30 11:42:45

Twisted
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Re: What is the difference between Loose Muddy Iron Vein and Iron Vein?

Muddy Iron Vein - The default state of a mine found every 40 tiles in the mountain biome. If a family makes their first well east/west of it, this will turn into a Loose Iron Vein. Otherwise, it turns into a Sunken Iron Vein when a nearby well is made.

Loose Muddy Iron Vein - Gives four iron for free, then turns into an Iron Vein.

Iron Vein - can be mined.

Sunken Iron Vein - when a family makes their first well, iron veins inside the tapout range but not directly east/west turn into this. Also, if a family makes their second/third/whatever well, Muddy Iron Veins in the tapout range turn into this. You can place a diesel engine on one of these to start mining. Also, when the nearby non-primary homeland expires (primary = first homeland of that fam), the Sunken Iron Vein turns back into a Muddy Iron Vein.

TL;DR If you have a well and you see a Muddy Iron Vein, you can't mine it. If you see a Loose Muddy Iron Vein or Iron Vein you can mine.

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#4 2020-05-30 13:53:08

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Re: What is the difference between Loose Muddy Iron Vein and Iron Vein?

Ah, it seems that a Shallow Well makes a loose muddy iron vein to an iron vein, and therefore gives another iron to handpick:
https://onetech.info/3962-Loose-Muddy-I … ryHomeland

According to onetech both loose muddy iron vein and iron vein can be hand picked without need of any tools.

This iron is really magic

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#5 2020-05-30 15:13:15

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Re: What is the difference between Loose Muddy Iron Vein and Iron Vein?

Loose muddy iron vein is created after making FIRST family's ready well site. This is needed because otherwise you wouldn't have any iron to make a shovel and you couldn't make shallow well.


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#6 2020-05-30 16:44:46

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Re: What is the difference between Loose Muddy Iron Vein and Iron Vein?

Coconut Fruit wrote:

Loose muddy iron vein is created after making FIRST family's ready well site. This is needed because otherwise you wouldn't have any iron to make a shovel and you couldn't make shallow well.


Petition for more stone tools, anyone?

We have a stone hoe ... where is the stone shovel and stone pickaxe?

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#7 2020-05-30 19:07:30

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Re: What is the difference between Loose Muddy Iron Vein and Iron Vein?

if you dont have a mine east/west for the first well, this spots will give you iron, if you got one, these will dry out

if you meet an eve, consider donating a shovel and a cart with 9 stones


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#8 2020-05-30 19:21:40

Arcurus
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Re: What is the difference between Loose Muddy Iron Vein and Iron Vein?

DestinyCall wrote:

Petition for more stone tools, anyone?

We have a stone hoe ... where is the stone shovel and stone pickaxe?

yea, if we skip the bronze age we can at least stay little bit longer in the stone age. would be interesting if how to make iron needs some time to be learned.

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#9 2020-05-30 19:26:02

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Re: What is the difference between Loose Muddy Iron Vein and Iron Vein?

For the record, I would also like to see copper and bronze tools.   Along with stone tools, copper and bronze could be used by early settlements who do not yet have access to iron tech.   Wrought iron/pig iron and steel would be used for the more advanced machinery and longer lasting basic tools.

Stone tools would be weak and fragile, but allow basic farming and general tool use in the absence of better materials.    Tool progression is sorely lacking right now.

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#10 2020-05-31 00:04:44

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Re: What is the difference between Loose Muddy Iron Vein and Iron Vein?

flat stone/rope/shaft could make a shovel for the well


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