Late Game Town Yum Survival List

tocal · 2020-05-11 08:49:13

I have found that late game towns need a sustainable, high yum chain food economy or they quickly eat up all the remaining food and die.
These are my notes on what foods late game towns should focus on to stay alive. This list doesn't necessarily apply to towns that haven't reached the late game yet.
The late game for towns is when most foods only give 1 pip.
Most foods aren't or shouldn't be portable. Most pies should not be taken with you because it would result in you eating the same food four times.
Portable food should be eaten last when in town. It should mostly be taken with you for emergencies.
I included my opinion on the difficulty for making some foods.
As a rule, never eat a food more than once unless it's a base food or you're about to die.

Feedback welcome.

(*) denotes portable

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baby yum chain
(these foods are ideal for 3 year olds to start out their yum chains with as each only provides 1 pip.)
(the non-portable foods in this list are very efficient foods for yumming.)
(the portable foods in this list are very inefficient if they aren't eaten just once for yumming.)
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green beans (super easy)
popcorn (super easy)
tortilla chips (very hard to make, but super efficient use of resources.)

milk from bowl (easy)
milk from pouch (easy)
milk from bottle (hard)

skim milk from bowl (easy)
skim milk from pouch (easy)
skim milk from bottle (hard)

* berry (super easy)
berry from bowl (super easy)

* carrot (super easy)
* onion
* hot pepper
* tomato

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adult yum chain
(these are good foods to yum with if you are an adult. these foods provide more than 1 pip thus are a waste for kids.)
(these foods don't provide enough food to be eaten more than once though.)
(For example, if a kid starts out their yum chain with buttered bread, it will take a few minutes before they are hungry enough to yum again. All that time they'll have to hang out around town.)
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tortilla chip with salsa (very hard)
french fry (hard)
french fry with ketchup (very hard)

turkey broth from bowl
turkey broth from pouch
turkey broth from bottle

carrot pie (easy)

* bread (easy)
buttered bread

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adult yum foods
(These are good foods to yum with and they provide many pips.)
(due to the difficulty in making these foods or their resource inefficiency, they shouldn't be eaten more than once.)
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* mutton

berry pie
carrot berry pie

taco beans (very hard)
taco pork (very hard)
* burrito (very hard)

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base food
(eat these foods more than once if hungry and you can't yum chain)
(These are the foods a late stage town should focus on making because they can sustain a town by themselves for short periods of time if food diversity is low.)
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3 sisters stew (very hard)
(*) mutton pie
turkey plate
pumpkin pie

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hungry work yum chain
(miner, woodcutter)
(these foods provide a lot of pips, more than most players might need if they are yumming. Save these foods for hungry workers if possible.)
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rabbit berry carrot pie
feast plate (very hard)

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exotic wild foods
(most late game town residents will never see these foods unless they leave town and go very far away.)
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* cactus fruit
* wild carot
* banana
* wild onion
* mushroom

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exotic foods
(these are foods that late game towns don't see much of due to the difficulty to make them or due to resources drying up)
(I only included rabbit foods here because most late game towns I've been in nobody wants to hunt rabbits.)
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* goose
rabbit pie
rabbit carrot pie
rabbit berry pie
ice cream (very hard)
turkey drumstick
wine (very hard)
sour kraut (hard)
fish
shrimp

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terrible foods
(these are foods that should be used for other things. These foods shouldn't even be used for yumming.)
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* rabbit (should make one of the 4 rabbit pies instead. Only eat if you really need sewing needles.)
ommelette (should make pumpkin pie or a goose instead. Only eat if you don't have sheep OR pumpkin/sugar/cows)
* corn on cob (terrible food only provides 1 pip. You could just make popcorn for 6 pips. Best use is to make 3 buckets of milk or 48 tortilla chips.)
carnitas (can turn into a plate of tacos)
cooked beans (Can turn into a plate of tacos, plate of burritos, or be used for 3 sisters stew. Only eat this if you don't have access to corn or are about to die.)
* burdock (can use to hunt 3 rabbits instead. Only eat this food if you are about to die.)
* baked potato (could make 5 french fries instead. Only make baked potatoes if you don't have access to palm oil.)

pein · 2020-05-11 11:56:17

I just eat whatever
committing to hot rocks oven and hoe is a waste of tools
I do none of that and still, produce way more food than others

testo · 2020-05-11 13:32:58

Just to point out a few misconceptions:

a) Shucked ear of corn is not bad if you are yumming. As long as you reach 16 yum with it is worth it and it is by far one of the easiest foods to get.
b) Carnitas is super good food with or without yum. Tacos are better? Sure, but you need to make them and you are still going to get a surplus of pork meat anyways. Cook those damn pork stakes.
c) Mutton and mutton pie should be always cooked with or without yum because almost every town has a big surplus. Make food that otherwise is going to be a waste of space, same as carnitas.
d) Labeling three sisters stew as very hard is... I will not make this comment.
e) Labeling burrito as very hard...
f) Labeling mushroom as exotic food...
g) Baked potato is ok while yumming.

tocal · 2020-05-11 14:54:27

Thanks for the feedback testo!

I agree that corn is not bad to eat for yumming, but when talking about a super late game town, every ounce of value matters. for the same investment, you get more berries, carrots, tomatoes, onion, and I think peppers. Early on in a town's life when there isn't as much food variety, you probably should eat corn raw. Late game, please process it into one of the literally 15 other foods you can derive from corn.

You are probably right about carnitas. However I find when I'm making tacos I feel like I can never find enough pork.

I think we're saying the same thing about mutton and mutton pie. However, I suggest both be preserved for traveling as they both pack well. When in town, eat the food that doesn't travel in your backpack. Mutton pie should be made as much as possible as it gives good pips, you'll always have extra lamb, and it's slightly more efficient than mutton.

labeling 3 sisters stew as very hard was probably a mistake. corn tortillas with salsa are very hard. 3 sisters stew is probably just hard.

you're probably also right about burrito... hard would probably be better than very hard. corn is harder because you need to get the lyme. both were very hard before the table update.

I didn't label mushroom as exotic, only as wild! You'll probably never find one in your lifetime in a late-game town.

For late game towns, I think baked potato is not ok for yumming. potatoes are a pain to make compared to other crops. It's better to get 5 people a yum +1 per potato than just 1 person. Also, palm oil is limitless so might as well get some extra food value out of it.

tocal · 2020-05-11 15:08:42

@pein
I find late game towns need at least 3 types of cooks. They need an oven cook, a hot rock cook, and a stew cook. The one that is least leveraged is the hot rock cook. Without that cook, you are cut of from these foods:

bean taco
pork taco
burrito
chip
chip with salsa
ommelette

The mesa kitchen foods, after the table and mesa dough 4 -> 8 change, are now some of the most efficient foods.

I think the stew cooks usually don't use the coals for variety cooking before cooking stew/broth, thus they miss out on these foods:
fench fries
french fries with ketchup
goose
fish
shrip
rabbit
carnitas
cooked beans
ice cream
pumpkin pie

As the name of the game for late game towns is food variety, I usually fill the role of hot coals/rock cook. My ultimate goal is to make a complete yumming room for a late game town. I've seen other people talk about it, but I haven't seen a town with it implemented yet. It requires a lot of time, but I think if it ever gets fully implemented people will see how helpful it is and sustain it.

testo · 2020-05-11 22:05:05

Also I agree with Pein´s main idea:

Lets say you reach 20 yum in your lifetime (with some insulation thats a decent yum level to keep you alive up to 60). If you ate literally any food that is at least 4 bites per bowl of water that means you used a grand total of 5 bowls of water and 5 bowls of soil.

By looking at the most efficient foods you are bypassing how hard is it to make and the tools needed. Chips are not that good in that regard because you need coals/shears just to make more than one of it. I would be eating roasted rabbit or baked potato any day instead of chips. In the time I take to make tortilla chips I can better go get a cart with 4/8 buckets of water or an oil tank.

Almost any food is decent if you are yumming. Cooked beans is the big exception but even then, If I go get a bucket of rubber for the newcomen and get 12 buckets of water out of it can you really say I wasn´t efficient?

tocal · 2020-05-11 22:39:18

On tortilla chips: I just started chaining my lives together in the same town to try to do larger projects. My first project was mesa kitchen foods. I used nearly broken shears on 8 tortillas to make chips. They didn't break. I think it's possible I just got very lucky, but it's more likely that cutting chips actually doesn't consume any iron. This is probably a 'feature.' If it did, it would be way more costly to make chips because then there would be an iron cost.

The problem with chips imo is the amount of time and bowls required to get it going. yea, you get 40 bites per 2 water and 1 corn (1 limestone), but the issue is tech and time. I think chips are best as a late game town food, whereas burritos could actually be made pretty early on. The best way to do chips is at scale in an established town where all the tools and resources are at hand already.

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