Donkey town Eves and males blocking new brown family Eve

pein · 2020-04-29 03:32:18

Today we had no decent brown families after Kirk and Bieber died out.

I checked as a 7-year-old and the expert waystone said -20000 -20000 something. Check at 59 and was the same.
next life finally Quentino family popped up.

I even went there to help out, with a horse, soon after I died they lost their last females.
5 males were around for a while. Soon after 4, 3, and until I got there only 1.

The guy was afk in the fire. Dropped his knife, I aimed at him so he notices me. He thought I want to kill him, so he dropped my upgraded horse cart to the jungle ( I was ginger). I ran after him with the other, he took that too and dropped it on the other jungle.

Now you can blame me for shift right-clicking but he was a dick doing that. HE was the last brown person in the reachable distance (-800 440) and all living families were on Newcomen stage needing more rubber belts for water.
After he dumped the horse he went back to fire and afk some more.

I figured that if he is sitting there 16 minutes more, we don't get a new Eve until that, so sorry, not sorry, I killed him. 2 minutes later I saw in hetuw player count that a new family popped up, not even too far, like 150 SE. I was able to sew my sheepskin into a saddle and make a fence, so I got a horse anyway so suck it noob, you did not slow me down.

I brought them there and they retrieved the horse carts, so all ends well I guess.

But the problems:
-An eve spawns randomly choosing between the best score 10 births.
-Donkey town eves block out normal eves.
-Males left in the family block out Eves or others taking over their cities. They can't continue their family, their name, and If they refuse to die, killing them is necessary.
-We barely got 45-50 people on the server, so we won't have more than 1 of each race, I think 7 or 8 families were today's most, where the last 3-4 was always 2-3 people.
-We got 20 or more people in a family and no other races.
-You can waste 10-15 SID and you still won't become the required race.
-White Eves spawn a lot more commonly than browns. We had 2 gingers and 2 whites multiple times, while 0 brown families.

The races should go in priority order: Black, Brown, Ginger, White
I would even say that we would need only one single white family, regardless of the player count. And they should be the last.

Also, what are those distances? Probably because Kirk and some others survived the apoc and started new but we had families 1200-2000 from each-other then the new eves spawn at 800 away from the newest outposts.

Since males are not fertile, they should not own a homeland. The other day I spawned right in center between 4 old towns and the only place that had food cockblocked my fertility with 2 males with no females.

The families and their numbers in last few days. You can see mostly 3 active families with way too many players.

kirk had 18 males to 12 females, 30 out of 52 players.

Also I'm pretty sure most of us SID to become a different race /girl/ probably.
If we would switch races each respawn it would be way more fair and way less suicides.

testo · 2020-04-29 07:37:43

Ten minutes ago there were two families alive in the server, first one was vanilla.
The second one was an unnamed coffe family.
I can´t even play.

Mr.XIX · 2020-04-29 09:56:22

pein wrote:

The guy was afk in the fire. Dropped his knife, I aimed at him so he notices me. He thought I want to kill him, so he dropped my upgraded horse cart to the jungle ( I was ginger). I ran after him with the other, he took that too and dropped it on the other jungle.

Funny to hear the other side of the story.

First, I recognize the problem about lacking experts of some kind. This is a problem and needs to be addressed.

Second, I understand why you are annoyed, but you make me look bad here.

From my point of view, my family just almost died out.
I'm just waiting in the fire to keep my meme-score on an acceptable level.
A random ginger comes riding on a horse, starts collecting our food, iron and backpacks.
I do what I have to do to protect my village, and stash the "stolen" goods in an unreachable biome for the "invader".
Now the invader starts grabbing a knife and targets me.
To make sure he can't steal the other goods, I take his horse as well, and hide it.
After that, you murder me, which I accept.

From my point of view there is no reason to help you in this situation.
Just five minutes before you came, a black family member came, gave us sulfur and we happily traded palm kernels back.

Make sure to have something to offer, because you can't demand that people have to help your village.

TL;DR Pein didn't have good trading skills

Dantox · 2020-04-29 14:39:04

Mr.XIX wrote:

From my point of view there is no reason to help you in this situation.
Just five minutes before you came, a black family member came, gave us sulfur and we happily traded palm kernels back.
Make sure to have something to offer, because you can't demand that people have to help your village.
TL;DR Pein didn't have good trading skills

Helping other families is helping yourself and the server in general so families can live longer. If your family was dying out the best thing you could have done was giving all the race-special-items to help the other families so the server doesnt suffer.

But if protecting your already doomed town was more important to you i guess there is no way around it.

FishRfriendsnotfood · 2020-04-29 14:53:14

If you are last person in the race and you are male, you have nothing to offer. Why wouldn't someone take the useful stuff to help their families, when your family is dead? Yes there are more polite and socially acceptable ways to go about things, I can agree. But since it appeared you were AFK doing nothing, why ask, when you can just take the useful stuff and go on your merry way.

Cantface · 2020-04-29 15:05:00

Using tug of war tactics for precious resources.

"I want to protect my town from being ravaged!"

"Your town is dead anyways GIVE us all your booty!"

"Please stop taking our shit we might need it later"

"Nah son we're liberating it we need it way more than you"

If there wasn't so many nerfs it wouldn't be like this. Sheesh just sounds like a headache to me.

pein · 2020-04-29 15:27:22

haha, it was you

to be fair, it was not dying, it was already dead, if you using hetuw, you should saw it, it was almost half an hour difference
the rest might not been obvious to you, that there is no one else at the server

people killed AFK players for the same reason, now on top of it you blocked the eve spawn too, its not your fault, its the games fault that even considers males as a brown family member, that puts a limit of like 50 minutes, and the remaining males are depressed or newbie so they might not care to help.

I only took the packs and left the non-duplicate tools so it can be revived. Since reviving takes time, packs are at better use for alive people.
On my way through the whites, i dropped the packs i found, even got them some hidden steel tools back.

In this case, the horse cart was stolen, which is not yours to take, it took me 360 tiles to take and 1200 to get to your village. And thats another stupid mechanic that should be changed. I hate to see items in other biomes.

Btw your other horsecart was mine the previous life, as the other horse in the pen, as the 3rd horse outside the desert and quite a few dessert items, i cut half the swamp for your fam, got 2 stacks of adobe, the snake skins, I think i even met you previously. I saw there is one girl left but not at the camp so not sure where she went, i was too old that time.

You also forced me to use some tools, i could make a fence by not consuming tool slots but I took the wild horse with the lasso and then realized there is no fence so i had to use it again.

And to be fair, there is no trade, your responsibility as a race specialist is to gather special items. You can dump palm kernels out of the jungle in a pile, it won't decay and helps the server even after the town is dead. Also, it generates new in one hour so there is no loss.

I was giving the white family a bucket of saltwater and 2 cabbage seeds in a bowl, but I would even refrain from that if they got no bottles or buckets.

Generally, that's why black towns are so useful, they leave behind sulfur and horses.

And in this case, where you had a paper from other families (and a knife from my previous life even if no adze/froe/saw/file) and sulfur, you would of been able to make rubber ball and erase it.

But in this story, i hate the fact that logically made sense to kill you and even if you were just trying to live that life to the end, you blocked the new eve from coming. That should not even be possible.
As for the AFK thing, you could still be useful for others and leave an organized camp behind for the taking.
It still had plenty of water in the well. That's also a form of trade since you pave the way for a new Eve.
I keep dumping out resources of my speciality biome all the time. Sulfur and rubber have storage issues so that's not the best deal.
I guess as a horse rider pencil should be a tool to use but then rubber ball should be a thing to rush as brown.

Last edited by pein (2020-04-29 15:31:26)

pein · 2020-04-30 04:54:43

ok this might be an issue with homelands

I was a ginger today, and found the black town. It was a white eve there and 3 guys. The eve was old with one girl at 25, I was mining iron for them, and saw the Rain males die. When all of them died, it was a slight delay when the well became "abandoned" and not "rain family well)
Soon after that a new black eve popped up and claimed the abandoned city near the old Lebrasseur gingers.

Jason says that males or donkey town does not count for eve spawns but homelands seem to hold up the eve spawns anyway.

If you got hetuw press P to show server pop. When there are only 3 families with more than 1 fertile female for a long time, make a screenshot of it, possibly track down the smallest race riding there.

Spoonwood · 2021-04-09 01:14:25

Almost a year old, but the exchange here is something of a classic read.

DestinyCall · 2021-04-09 03:36:51

I was wondering why pein kept talking about tool slots.

Glad that bullshit isn't in the game anymore. Wish the rest of it was just as irrelevant to the current game state.

fug · 2021-04-09 03:58:22

Spoonwood wrote:

Almost a year old, but the exchange here is something of a classic read.

Please stop necroing threads that have no relevance to current game issues.

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