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#26 2019-05-04 06:20:50

SomeDude
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Registered: 2019-05-03
Posts: 7

Re: Wood Flooring (Other Than for Improving Crop Picking) is The Devil

DestinyCall wrote:
Spoonwood wrote:

Someone, apparently using the hetuw mod, is making useless wood flooring by the oven.  I look for the adze, but don't see it (I find it later).  So, I use the froe like once or twice and make a few buckets.  Some boards get made by someone else, so I take some disks and make more buckets.  Then she stabs me and calls me a griefer.  Lady, you were wrong.  Your wood floors are useless and you need A LOT of buckets to have an efficient and well-run settlement.  You sure your family has enough buckets?  Your certainty is almost surely wrong, and the family can use more buckets.

Intentionally wrecking someone else's project to get the material for YOUR project is incredibly rude behavior.   I think she was justified in assuming you were a griefer.   Next time, ASK the woman if you can use some of her boards to make more buckets.   You saw that she was working on a flooring project.  Those were not just random boards, abandoned by the previous generation.   She gathered the logs, cut them into boards and had a specific purpose that she intended to use them for.   That was a lot of time and hard work that she put into that project and everyone only have one life to finish working in a particular village.  When you disrupt someone else's work you potentially prevent them from finishing what they have set out to achieve and ruin their enjoyment ... just like a griefer. 

You should respect other productive players.   Their work is important too.   If you are making buckets and already have a froe, you don't need to steal someone else's boards.  If you can't find the froe or adze, you could just ask that woman where to find the tool you need.   She obviously got those boards from somewhere.    If neither of you can find the necessary tools, make another one, if you have sufficient iron.   It does no one any good if you dismantle someone else's hard work or intentionally get in their way because you feel their goal is less valuable than your goal.  Especially if you do so without communicating your intentions and reasoning to the other person so they understand why you are acting like a jerk.  It just looks like you are disrupting peaceful village life and ruining things for no reason.

We had a giant argument on the OHOL discord over property, ugly buildings and how the lady was bad. I made points like this but I quit due to him not realizing how rude it was.


Corn is the holy crop of the people
1 water = 5 corn, 1 corn = 1 milk bucket, 1 milk bucket = 120 pips. (or 80 pips with cream.) 1 water bowl = 120 pips. 1 water bowl = 35 pips. (7 evil berries)
Always make corn farms, not evil puny noob berry farm.

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#27 2019-05-04 07:28:52

breezeknight
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Registered: 2018-04-02
Posts: 813

Re: Wood Flooring (Other Than for Improving Crop Picking) is The Devil

my meta about the issue discussed is

a blessing system in place would over time result in

1. blessed players would be known to others in game as being helpful & not griefers
2. players who think themselves now as being helpful would have a chance to reconsider their idea of helpfulness, while not blessed by others
3. players would be more respectful to blessed players

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#28 2019-05-04 13:59:59

Sukallinen
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Registered: 2019-04-03
Posts: 180

Re: Wood Flooring (Other Than for Improving Crop Picking) is The Devil

Spoonwood wrote:

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I still think you are trolling, as I stated in discord. If not, you are one of the most arrogant person I've ever met online/irl, thinking what others should do for their fun. My offer stands: if making cart/chopping trees is beyond your capability I can point you to resources. Trying to waste fun for everyone else playing the game isn't nice. And now it's moved to trolling the forums *sigh*.

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#29 2019-05-04 14:14:59

Spoonwood
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Registered: 2019-02-06
Posts: 4,369

Re: Wood Flooring (Other Than for Improving Crop Picking) is The Devil

Sukallinen wrote:

I still think you are trolling, as I stated in discord.

People are not trolling when they are serious.  Trolling requires a lack of sincerity.  Towns need buckets sooner or later.  The do NOT need wood flooring.

Wood flooring does waste fun for other people since it becomes more difficult to make wooden shoes, buckets, carts, or sledges.  I believe that children have more fun when their mom can outfit them with wooden shoes, or other shoes during their infancy.  Moms not being able to outfit their children with clogs because the local butt logs get used up on wooden floors sure does sound like children having less fun.


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Longtime tutorial player.

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#30 2019-05-04 14:19:14

Spoonwood
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Registered: 2019-02-06
Posts: 4,369

Re: Wood Flooring (Other Than for Improving Crop Picking) is The Devil

breezeknight wrote:

my meta about the issue discussed is

a blessing system in place would over time result in

1. blessed players would be known to others in game as being helpful & not griefers
2. players who think themselves now as being helpful would have a chance to reconsider their idea of helpfulness, while not blessed by others
3. players would be more respectful to blessed players

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There would have to exist a way to see people's bless score.  Enough people would have to know and care about it also, so it would take some time before it had an effect.  Might make it harder to see things in the game.  People head blocking objects such as hot steel ingots on a flat rock at the smithy has enough problems already, so there exist some drawbacks to a blessing system.  Also, someone getting iron, rope, or running a rig outside of town isn't likely to get noticed until back from a trip and sometimes that person won't get noticed also.  I mean I've made it back in my late 50s before on such a run, and I don't doubt others have also.  Still, your blessing system idea has some attractive qualities to it.


Danish Clinch.
Longtime tutorial player.

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#31 2019-05-04 14:29:27

CatX
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Registered: 2019-02-11
Posts: 464

Re: Wood Flooring (Other Than for Improving Crop Picking) is The Devil

Spoonwood wrote:

People are not trolling when they are serious.  Trolling requires a lack of sincerity.  Towns need buckets sooner or later.  The do NOT need wood flooring.

Wood flooring does waste fun for other people since it becomes more difficult to make wooden shoes, buckets, carts, or sledges.  I believe that children have more fun when their mom can outfit them with wooden shoes, or other shoes during their infancy.  Moms not being able to outfit their children with clogs because the local butt logs get used up on wooden floors sure does sound like children having less fun.

Wood is not iron. I agree to save iron when possible. Have fun with wood.
If there's not enough wood, make a horse and cart, take an axe, and bring more wood back to town.
The problem isn't people using wood. It's that people don't bring enough wood back to camp (if there's a problem at all).

Wood floors are great.

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#32 2019-05-04 17:58:21

Spoonwood
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Posts: 4,369

Re: Wood Flooring (Other Than for Improving Crop Picking) is The Devil

Wood floors don't do anything other than organize crop picking.  They are not great, they are useless... for a bakery.


Danish Clinch.
Longtime tutorial player.

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