Eating table (idea discussion)

pein · 2019-02-10 20:11:24

This would serve as an unified food serving mechanism and also good decoration and storage
A small table could hold food items, people could click on it to eat
when empty you could move it with right click
The cost should be higher to not use as walls, but only lower requirement resources, maybe even upgradeable with time

For example 2 straight shafts, rope, 2 flat rocks, cut shafts in 4 pieces with a hatchet
later could be upgraded with boards, to have more storage/look better

I feel like the main reason why everyone eats berries is just the arability, its there, its i nthe forest, its most common at the start of game, you eat it, you go back to doing whatever you did.
Also a lot of people doesnt recognize other food types, and to be fair we got a few eating methods, from bowl, from plate, some require preparation
Lot of people skip trough this, and jsut plant more berries, all to same spot, disregarding free spaces and every aspect of city planning

even if some people work on other food types, they need to explain it first why they need to eat other food, how to eat other food
i really wish people would know from tutorial how to eat a burrito or sauerkraut, even f they cannot prepare it

so the table would serve as now the berry fields, people go there, eat, and go back to do whatever
this would give us the option to put down a few tables, fill with food and then no need to explain how to eat, they go there, click it, either take off the first item on it or could have 4 sides for 4 different food types

maybe we could have a dedicated granary like soem strategy games got

this would make it easier to distribute, collect food, and people would run to tables instead of farms, this behavior of eating carrot from ground and leavign 1 berry on a bush is very annoying, some of us cares, let us do it a bit more efficient

Booklat1 · 2019-02-10 20:38:05

I like this idea but still think berries need nerfs if we want people to stop eating them. It should just not be viable to live off of berries.

The_Anabaptist · 2019-02-10 20:44:20

How about a second berry (or other item) type that is poisonous to humans, but replaces the regular berry for the sheep and compost recipe? Less incentive to over plant berries. Bam!

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Nepumuk · 2019-02-10 20:46:02

I love the table idea, I thought for a while we need something like a food court as an alternative to the berry farm where we can put different food options and have it in a central part of town so people can hang around there instead of berry farms.

Just nerfing berries will not change things for people that literally don't know anything else. You could probably make berries have 1 pip and they would still eat them and plant them, in all likelihood they would plant even more to make up for the lack of nutrition.

Booklat1 · 2019-02-10 21:02:01

Nepumuk wrote:

I love the table idea, I thought for a while we need something like a food court as an alternative to the berry farm where we can put different food options and have it in a central part of town so people can hang around there instead of berry farms.
Just nerfing berries will not change things for people that literally don't know anything else. You could probably make berries have 1 pip and they would still eat them and plant them, in all likelihood they would plant even more to make up for the lack of nutrition.

Oh trust me, people would stop planting berries if they were dead. Cant plant without soil, cant plant without water. Berries aren't just easy to eat, they're just good enough that civs don't die even though half the populaltion relies on them.

But sure, berry nerfs ALONE wouldn't change much of the berry meta. I find it problematic that around newcomen era we achieve a completely soil sustainable, water sustainable, iron driven economy. Specially when making soil also results in materials for pies anyway.

antking:]# · 2019-02-10 21:31:10

may be we should have a nutritional, value bar! with different foods having different nutrients, proteins, vitamins, and or carbs. to encourage people to eat more varied foods, and expand the food table! like combining foods on plates too make meals that can be served on a table... such as turkey slice + baked potato + sauerkraut + plate, makes a meal which can be eaten at a table, providing, yum, nutritional value and hunger pips!

pein · 2019-02-10 22:26:20

well i suggested back before not to punish bad behavior but reward good
its better game mechanic
my point was stronghold crusader where you could buy up food and cut up on ratios, and the better bonus compensated for the lack of value
this was a good game mechanic, which rewarded people for doing things instead of not doing it
you had to sell stuff, and buy some meat and cheese, cut up ratios to minimum and then you still had fosome peopel dont care at all od bonus more than giving plenty of one type food which you could produce

jason implemented yum, which resulted in 3 behaviors:
-you dont care at all because you dont know or you produce enough of one type
-you care about but you are realsitic about it and just chain the available ones
-and this yumophiles who eat all different foods chaining longest line of yums, wasting a lot of time to find new food types

ever since the start berries are the most common food eaten
poporn at introduction became top1 then was nerfed right away
stil lok but the main problem is that people can eat it raw and needs time and a bit of effort to eat it

now the first category might need some punishment, but not something final, or something that punishes others for feeding them
cause any change to berries, still the same noobs gonna eat it, and stil lthe same veterans will water and soil it
if you cut off on value, its still needed by sheep and still wasted by others

negative yum could be a thing, but not for value, for life expectancy, so if you eat 3 meh in a row, then you will get a food bar cut off
something like hearthstone overload mechanic, this would essentially kill you faster around age 40+
people could still do it, and would do it, but they technically "age faster" cause of malnutrition
this could be overcome just by simply swapping 2 food types over and over
and could be cured by a yum chain of 5? if they reach a yum chain of 5, those overloaded boxes come back, but they lose the yum bonus
so in times of famine and general crazyness, you could still do it, and come back from it
no i dont talk about working both ways, you still live to max 60 years, but for newbees who dont know, they would be fine with this punish, they dont live to 60 anyway, some people only play female and suicide at 40 anyway

sheep food could be replaced with potato, or allow both, ofc buff potato by switching the tool needed for hoe or a new spade
this way you wouldnt plant berries at all for sheep and wouldnt be misused, but you would still need tools to do so, so both methods would work, just potato would be higher tier

the other woudl be soem other bush/fruit tree which requires no tilling, and would be fast
provide some food in exchange for work
for example fish aquariums? or domesticated rabbits in cages? or apple tree, it would require some soil and water and give 3 apples in 8 minutes with a bit better value than berries or maybe worse value per unit but higher overall

i feel like there is nothing you can do when you got no tools and soil. teach kids? you do it faster alone, compost and gather
especially people dont leave the camp no matter what
forest is full of berries? who cares, eat the one at home

its not just the berries, its everything, if someone makes stew, that is on the table, that gonan be eaten without needng you to go around tell them, teach them how to eat, why to eat
i often see people making pies, then they go back to berry field and eat it
some of us yells at kids not to eat pies, they grow up and even at 14 they eat berries cause they dont know which age is adult age and how long for

Grim_Arbiter · 2019-02-10 23:57:21

I think we will get those tables eventually.

One is in the trailer after all

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