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#1 2018-11-27 17:26:21

Gederian
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Registered: 2018-03-28
Posts: 164

Bring Back Bowl + Berry Bush

Clicking on bushes and bowls hundreds of times to make compost is not fun. When the bush is in the middle of the patch it's even worse.

Please remove this monotonous uninteresting task and let us scoop all the berries from a bush with a bowl like we used to. It works for beans, please bring it back for berries!

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#2 2018-11-27 17:32:22

lionon
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Registered: 2018-11-19
Posts: 532

Re: Bring Back Bowl + Berry Bush

Agree, doesn't have to need to be full bushes. Simply clicking the bowl on the bush puts as many berries in the bowl as possible, either emptying the bush to zero or filling the bowl to max.

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#3 2018-11-27 17:39:28

Floofy
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Registered: 2018-11-16
Posts: 183

Re: Bring Back Bowl + Berry Bush

Agreed. I'm all for the game being difficult, but this is just annoying.

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#4 2018-11-27 19:29:59

Tarr
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Registered: 2018-03-31
Posts: 1,596

Re: Bring Back Bowl + Berry Bush

As annoying as this can be before he made this update you had to have full bushes (which wasted a berry) or bushes with exactly one berry taken off to fill the bowl. I'd rather have to fill my bowls one by one than go through the mess that was having unusable bushes.

Did someone eat two berries off your bush? Unusable. With as bad as some people are with eating berries your composting will completely grind to a stop unless you go around trying to collect the wild berries.


fug it’s Tarr.

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#5 2018-11-27 20:02:52

Gederian
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Registered: 2018-03-28
Posts: 164

Re: Bring Back Bowl + Berry Bush

Tarr wrote:

I'd rather have to fill my bowls one by one than go through the mess that was having unusable bushes.

As lionon said, you should be able to use a bush in any state and it would only take the number of berries it needs or just partially fill the bowl. The combinations of this are extensive which is probably why Jason had it only working on full bushes.

Lets count the combinations:

Bush / Bowl
6 / 0 = 1 / 5
5 / 0 = 0 / 5
4 / 0 = 0 / 4
3 / 0 = 0 / 3
2 / 0 = 0 / 2
1 / 0 = 0 / 1
6 / 1 = 2 / 5
6 / 2 = 3 / 5
6 / 3 = 4 / ...

Ok, yah that's annoying and definitely why Jason didn't create them all. But he should!

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#6 2018-11-27 20:07:22

Floofy
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Posts: 183

Re: Bring Back Bowl + Berry Bush

Gederian wrote:
Tarr wrote:

I'd rather have to fill my bowls one by one than go through the mess that was having unusable bushes.

As lionon said, you should be able to use a bush in any state and it would only take the number of berries it needs or just partially fill the bowl. The combinations of this are extensive which is probably why Jason had it only working on full bushes.

Lets count the combinations:

Bush / Bowl
6 / 0 = 1 / 5
5 / 0 = 0 / 5
4 / 0 = 0 / 4
3 / 0 = 0 / 3
2 / 0 = 0 / 2
1 / 0 = 0 / 1
6 / 1 = 2 / 5
6 / 2 = 3 / 5
6 / 3 = 4 / ...

Ok, yah that's annoying and definitely why Jason didn't create them all. But he should!

I don't think its that complex.
X = Berries in bush
Y = Berries in bowl

While (X>0 And Y < 6)
{
    X--;
    Y++;
}

This is an algoritm an high school student could come up with, i doubt jason has issues figuring it out lol

Last edited by Floofy (2018-11-27 20:08:09)

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#7 2018-11-27 20:13:03

Gederian
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Registered: 2018-03-28
Posts: 164

Re: Bring Back Bowl + Berry Bush

Floofy wrote:

While (X>0 And Y < 6)
{
    X--;
    Y++;
}

Crafting is not coded in this game so that would be a one off hack of the core game engine. He would need to create objects and transitions of a+b=c+d for each possibility.

But I agree, still not THAT many possibilities that it's unreasonable to do.

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#8 2018-11-27 21:34:02

Ellesanna
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Registered: 2018-07-20
Posts: 95

Re: Bring Back Bowl + Berry Bush

I agree wholeheartedly, post this on the reddit so Jason sees this and considers actually implementing it.

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#9 2018-11-27 21:36:18

Gederian
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Registered: 2018-03-28
Posts: 164

Re: Bring Back Bowl + Berry Bush

Ellesanna wrote:

I agree wholeheartedly, post this on the reddit so Jason sees this and considers actually implementing it.


I don't have reddit so if someone does please feel free to submit it. I think Jason reads most things here, reddit is great for the voting aspect which has influenced his decision in the past when lots of people clearly agree.

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#10 2018-11-27 21:47:37

Ellesanna
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Posts: 95

Re: Bring Back Bowl + Berry Bush

Gederian wrote:
Ellesanna wrote:

I agree wholeheartedly, post this on the reddit so Jason sees this and considers actually implementing it.


I don't have reddit so if someone does please feel free to submit it. I think Jason reads most things here, reddit is great for the voting aspect which has influenced his decision in the past when lots of people clearly agree.

https://www.reddit.com/r/OneLifeSuggest … s_berries/
I posted it for you! Its on reddit now as we speak, don't worry I gave you credit.

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#11 2018-11-27 23:36:54

desertsyd
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Registered: 2018-07-18
Posts: 26

Re: Bring Back Bowl + Berry Bush

Gederian wrote:

When the bush is in the middle of the patch it's even worse.

this is the root of the issue.

People stop making large continuous berry patches!!!!!

have a max of 3 rows or 3 cols

OOO
OOO
OOO
OOO
OOO

OOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOO

or leave blank spots for soil, bucket, bowl

OOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOO
OOO -- OOO
OOOOOOOO
OOOOOOOO

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Last edited by desertsyd (2018-11-27 23:37:51)

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#12 2018-11-28 04:31:52

lionon
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Registered: 2018-11-19
Posts: 532

Re: Bring Back Bowl + Berry Bush

Gederian wrote:

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Lets count the combinations:

Ok, yah that's annoying and definitely why Jason didn't create them all. But he should!

Or multiply instead of counting. 6*6 = 36 combos. Not out of the world.

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#13 2018-11-28 12:07:59

pein
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Registered: 2018-03-31
Posts: 4,335

Re: Bring Back Bowl + Berry Bush

should be a different berry bush, which cnanot be picked by hand, and not edible , only to be used for sheep, with a different color so people wont confuse it


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#14 2018-11-28 12:46:58

lionon
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Registered: 2018-11-19
Posts: 532

Re: Bring Back Bowl + Berry Bush

Or..... have more than one combo-possibility to create compost other than berries+carrot+wheat.

Or.... at least have a full berry bush making a full pot from any empty one, however you still fill them one by one for already picked bushes if someone picked already some.

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#15 2018-11-28 15:24:37

Matisz
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From: Pittsburgh
Registered: 2018-08-25
Posts: 8

Re: Bring Back Bowl + Berry Bush

Wouldn't it be simple to just allow you to add +1 berry to your bowl per click with a bowl in hand?

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#16 2018-11-28 15:48:06

lionon
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Registered: 2018-11-19
Posts: 532

Re: Bring Back Bowl + Berry Bush

Matisz wrote:

Wouldn't it be simple to just allow you to add +1 berry to your bowl per click with a bowl in hand?

Would technically require 36 recopies as well (berry 1-6 on bush times berries 0-5 in bowl)... so in that regard not be any better than having it fill with all available right away and there is little use for a bowl with 1 to 5 berries anyway, so nobody would likely ever want to to pluck less than all available from a domestic berry bush.

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#17 2018-11-28 15:50:08

lowdt
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Registered: 2018-10-27
Posts: 30

Re: Bring Back Bowl + Berry Bush

here is the thing.. the game is totally fine.. it is the players that suck!

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#18 2018-11-28 16:24:26

Jadelink
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Registered: 2018-11-24
Posts: 31

Re: Bring Back Bowl + Berry Bush

Good idea, saves tedious juggling.

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