Fertility Rungs and Rebirth Hurdle for Birth/Death

YAHG · 2018-05-02 18:21:13

Say you have a baby and it dies you get a tick, like you have one baby death. When
it decides where people are born it goes through all the people with less ticks than you
first before it even looks at you. Killing your babies makes you less likely to have them,
but not impossible.

Lets say you are a baby and you die and wanna get reborn to your town so you kill yourself.
The game know how many relatives you have and what generation you are, what if your
rebirth was limited to someone with lower relatives and or gen count than your current situation.
If it fails to find one it just Eves you, you should not be able to reborn to the same character
more than 1 time, I have had it and it is retarded.

Perhaps if you passed some hurdle like living till 30, 60 is too rough a penalty but 30 min is
enough time to make it WAY less common without being an super hard task, then you do free
birth again.

I think these two paired together would make people less likely to abandon babies because
they are slowly punished more and more for it. This would also make suicide as a baby
nearly pointless. Interestingly enough killing babies sends em down a peg <3 kinda a
cool funny side effect..

ryanb · 2018-05-02 18:59:09

Cool idea, but it is a little complicated to understand. The idea of only being born once per lineage (as discussed in another thread) solves the same problems in a simpler way.

YAHG · 2018-05-02 19:54:27

Maybe but I think at least the 2nd part of this is MUCH more powerful for stopping suicide babies.

pein · 2018-05-03 06:20:30

once a lineage is fricking stupid, its not a lineage then, you can serve others to have a good life by you having a bad boring one

happened to me i born three times to two asshole sisters, or one asshole mom, i just looked to left to move my screen center, but i was in same spot she left me, she didnt feed me cause i moved, i so wanted to shoot that bitch but she killed me again next life by not even feeding me.
but also had eves who wanted me, and second run i stayed just because she looked so nice the first time running after me

breezeknight · 2018-05-03 07:54:07

as long there is no cure for murder given into the hands of a victim
& as long there is no family trees
i will still suicide as baby 100% & as Eve for about 75%

so not every player who suicides as baby wants to be just reborn in some stupid town to some "lineage" known only to the game but not the player in question
do i have to make a spreadsheet to know if my Eve lineage survived ?
& what for ? murderers, griefers & self righteous killers are born into that "lineage" as well randomly, so i couldn't care less, for my "twice removed cousins",

YAHG · 2018-05-03 08:52:41

breezeknight wrote:

as long there is no cure for murder given into the hands of a victim
& as long there is no family trees
i will still suicide as baby 100% & as Eve for about 75%
so not every player who suicides as baby wants to be just reborn in some stupid town to some "lineage" known only to the game but not the player in question
do i have to make a spreadsheet to know if my Eve lineage survived ?
& what for ? murderers, griefers & self righteous killers are born into that "lineage" as well randomly, so i couldn't care less, for my "twice removed cousins",

So if that is the case you would just suicide till you are Eve again and then kill yourself 75% of the time..

I assume you suicide as Eve just out of spite for yourself?

Well once you are murdered you are kaput perhaps you could travel in groups to help defend yourself
or at least avenge your comrade, perhaps groups of three incase one of em is a bad apple?

Society can be rough I suppose..

breezeknight · 2018-05-03 09:40:52

YAHG wrote:

breezeknight wrote:
as long there is no cure for murder given into the hands of a victim
& as long there is no family trees
i will still suicide as baby 100% & as Eve for about 75%
so not every player who suicides as baby wants to be just reborn in some stupid town to some "lineage" known only to the game but not the player in question
do i have to make a spreadsheet to know if my Eve lineage survived ?
& what for ? murderers, griefers & self righteous killers are born into that "lineage" as well randomly, so i couldn't care less, for my "twice removed cousins",
So if that is the case you would just suicide till you are Eve again and then kill yourself 75% of the time..
I assume you suicide as Eve just out of spite for yourself?
Well once you are murdered you are kaput perhaps you could travel in groups to help defend yourself
or at least avenge your comrade, perhaps groups of three incase one of em is a bad apple?
Society can be rough I suppose..

i suicide as Eve because i am able to survive alone, i know what to do, i can live to 60 easily
that's why i am bored with a life alone as Eve, it repeats,
OHOL is a MP, so i want to play together with others in a constructive way

my main gameplay for now is to play as a male descendant, supportive to the community,
if i am being welcomed, i will live & will try to do everything in my meager power to support that community

but
anything revolving around killings, murders & killings of murderers is not a constructive way to play - that's my opinion, deal with it

& i am not being murdered anymore, but i cannot prevent the murders happening around me, this has to be delivered as peaceful, non agressive, non violent options by the game, within the gameplay
as long those options are not there i will proceed as described

any killing of a murderer or griefer or whomever, is a killing - face the truth
there is no righteous killing - that's my opinion

a revenge does not bring for me & for others those gameplay opportunities wasted in killings
a revenge is to pile up more wasted life on top of a life wasted by killing or griefing

i tried it out to withhold & avoid violence in this game while still producing families, this felt like wasting my time,
because OHOL is programmed so far giving killers options but victims NONE
if you kill a killer it just won't help the victim to get back to life where it could have been lived - face the truth

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Last edited by breezeknight (2018-05-03 09:43:16)

Lum · 2018-05-03 14:22:09

So the more mistakes you make, the harder it gets to fix them? Won't it just snowball into a catastrophe if baby spawning chooses better mothers and kills off the lineages of bad ones?

YAHG · 2018-05-03 14:44:51

Lum wrote:

So the more mistakes you make, the harder it gets to fix them? Won't it just snowball into a catastrophe if baby spawning chooses better mothers and kills off the lineages of bad ones?

I would assume your baby death counter would reset every
new life you lived. If you keep having your babies die then
yes, you would get less and less babies, but it would still
give you babies before it Eved them unless you had already
born that player as your baby this life.

Better Moms will have more babies, that doesn't seem to be
a big problem to me. If you feed all your babies and you
are too poor to do so you will starve yourself out then you
can be a new person with new baby death counter. If you
lived to the threshold age for free birth(just being an Eve
only makes people kill themselves till they are Eve then
kill self once more) then you would have shot at rich
parents again.

Granted your odds of getting richer parents would be
increased because the poorer ones are more likely to starve
their children? I think I don't think that detail of data
exists even for Jason. He can't track EVERYTHING lol...

Doing better would increase your chances of an easier life
the next time, suicide would make things harder for you.
People function off incentives. If you want people to meta
game less then you gotta make meta gaming not pay off for
them. Most people wont follow rules that they think aren't
in their interest. Think of how often you speed, do drugs
or all of your other private sins.

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