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#1 2022-04-11 17:38:15

TAIOAN
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Registered: 2018-06-03
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Is this game still alive?

Why there are no updates like... half year?
Is there any other game like this?


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#2 2022-04-11 17:53:17

selalov734
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Registered: 2021-06-01
Posts: 77

Re: Is this game still alive?

TAIOAN wrote:

Why there are no updates like... half year?

Most of the latest big updates have made the game worse.
If you invest time and work into doing something only for it to become worse you will become frustrated and don't want to continue to work on it.
Jason doesn't know how to improve this game anymore and he is frustrated.
I think his biggest mistake was to force things by adding magic mechanics.

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#3 2022-04-11 18:07:53

Eve Troll
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Registered: 2020-07-07
Posts: 331

Re: Is this game still alive?

We havent really had any updates in almost two years.

People still play but the development of this game is pretty much dead.

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#4 2022-04-11 21:17:48

Laggy
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Registered: 2021-01-26
Posts: 226

Re: Is this game still alive?

No game stays relevant forever, it's impossible to create a game with enough content to entertain someone forever.

Name one game that hasn't been destroyed because of loot boxes and microtransactions. Ruinscape?

Money seems to be the root of games becoming bland.

As long as Jason keeps the servers online OHOL will always be a small niche game.

Let's say EA buys the license.

EA would kill OHOL and make OHOL2 with loot boxes.

OHOL wouldn't get anymore updates, but OHOL2 would be a more impressive game, yet in two years it would also die.

This seems to be the trend in MMO's.

They die because there is more money in releasing an expansion and making the game more accessible ( aka easy ).

Last edited by Laggy (2022-04-11 21:19:55)

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#5 2022-04-13 03:02:45

Wood
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Registered: 2022-04-13
Posts: 61

Re: Is this game still alive?

Yeah, He is just busy moving house


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#6 2022-04-13 03:04:02

pein
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Registered: 2018-03-31
Posts: 4,335

Re: Is this game still alive?

Well, you are comparing games that aren't in same league.
Games can entertain people for long periods, like Mount and Blade, Football Manager, Stronghold Crusader, Crusader kings, I got tons of hours in them. Ofc is single player mostly, but with right mechanics they could be good multiplayer too. Stronghold was hard and multi is fun too. Maybe Factorio or ONI can be compared to it.  The others had a bunch of mods that made it better.

it's not a first person shooter or a sports game or esport or moba and those parts suck anyway. the one thing is good at is the strategical top down view, so first of all the screen size could be bigger, I don't mind if he intends to have it more personal but like allow players with more hours to change that setting.

When you look at the big picture, the tech tree should make sense, and it doesn't, because it's not a tree, it's more like saplings stacking out of the ground. Barely anything has a higher level, and things coexist on all levels, only tools and bucket and a few other things are required by other things and provide some quality of life changes. He focused on adding more things instead of adding a few things that can be combined many different ways, and the things don't even change based on the circumstances, no wonder that the players choose a few things that worth it and ignore the rest. If option A and B and C or D would exist, people would still do one or the other but would try out the rest too. But he instead split the content and players can do even less than before.

I just really don't get it, he makes it artificially harder for people to play, but most of those things aren't affecting new players, but if he would actually make it easier then more people would play and enjoy, veterans would get bored of it but they are already. If there are more people there could be different modes like easy and hard.

The rpg side isn't really shining, I mean you already got the premise to deny the persistent characters, so you can rp but will be over and you start over. Plenty of people enjoy talking and messing around, that's fine but since it's a game it should have a better (or in this case any at all) scoring system, better goals.

Not sure if people would pay for dlc, it's not like you can add dlc to online games where aren't even enough players.

But cosmetics could work, like new characters but for some money. You don't have to buy if you don't care. Or like observer mode, more stats and stuff like that.


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#7 2022-04-13 03:15:40

Wood
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Registered: 2022-04-13
Posts: 61

Re: Is this game still alive?

I agree with Pein


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#8 2022-04-14 22:48:01

Booklat1
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Registered: 2018-07-21
Posts: 1,062

Re: Is this game still alive?

selalov734 wrote:
TAIOAN wrote:

Why there are no updates like... half year?

Most of the latest big updates have made the game worse.
If you invest time and work into doing something only for it to become worse you will become frustrated and don't want to continue to work on it.
Jason doesn't know how to improve this game anymore and he is frustrated.
I think his biggest mistake was to force things by adding magic mechanics.


couldn't have said so mysef. I want to want to play this game and I'm sure a part of jason wants to want to make it, but i really don't know that it isn't too far gone. Family specializations and homelands killed the game for me at least. Not that war swords, changes to the killing mechanics and the other hold-your-hand mechanics weren't coming close to it by themselves

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#9 2022-04-14 22:49:30

Booklat1
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Registered: 2018-07-21
Posts: 1,062

Re: Is this game still alive?

Laggy wrote:

Name one game that hasn't been destroyed because of loot boxes and microtransactions.

*whispers* minecraft


Unless you count OP villager trades as lootboxes but why would you?

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#10 2022-04-15 07:43:34

Wood
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Registered: 2022-04-13
Posts: 61

Re: Is this game still alive?

Booklat1 wrote:
Laggy wrote:

Name one game that hasn't been destroyed because of loot boxes and microtransactions.

*whispers* minecraft


Unless you count OP villager trades as lootboxes but why would you?




Unless you count the servers


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#11 2022-04-15 18:11:26

Laggy
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Registered: 2021-01-26
Posts: 226

Re: Is this game still alive?

Booklat1 wrote:
Laggy wrote:

Name one game that hasn't been destroyed because of loot boxes and microtransactions.

*whispers* minecraft


Unless you count OP villager trades as lootboxes but why would you?

Minecraft has DLC and the expansion costs $40 for those.

Try again.

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#12 2022-04-16 03:32:09

Booklat1
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Registered: 2018-07-21
Posts: 1,062

Re: Is this game still alive?

Laggy wrote:
Booklat1 wrote:
Laggy wrote:

Name one game that hasn't been destroyed because of loot boxes and microtransactions.

*whispers* minecraft


Unless you count OP villager trades as lootboxes but why would you?

Minecraft has DLC and the expansion costs $40 for those.

Try again.


I'm not sure if you're talking about bedrock packs or dungeons dlcs, but none of those are Minecraft DLCs

minecraft updates are free, have always been free

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#13 2022-04-16 04:27:42

Wood
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Registered: 2022-04-13
Posts: 61

Re: Is this game still alive?

Laggy wrote:
Booklat1 wrote:
Laggy wrote:

Name one game that hasn't been destroyed because of loot boxes and microtransactions.

*whispers* minecraft


Unless you count OP villager trades as lootboxes but why would you?

Minecraft has DLC and the expansion costs $40 for those.

Try again.



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