What's the point of being male if I can't have a child?

Rabbitologist · 2019-05-26 08:58:27

Is this game supposed to be parthenogenesis? Virgin birth?

SpiritBomb32 · 2019-05-26 09:08:11

budding

RodneyC86 · 2019-05-26 09:10:06

You don't have to worry about kids and able to travel far and explore. Yeah you can do the same as a woman but that's wasted babies since dead babies will get banned from your family after they are abandoned.

It's also an abstract way roles and jobs are divided

Women are typically mothers, farmers, shepherds, and bakers.

Men, explorers, miners, foragers, hunters, trappers. Arguably smiths also since being distracted repeatedly by baby will get in your way to build an engine

Tarr · 2019-05-26 09:13:06

RodneyC86 wrote:

You don't have to worry about kids and able to travel far and explore. Yeah you can do the same as a woman but that's wasted babies since dead babies will get banned from your family after they are abandoned.
It's also an abstract way roles and jobs are divided
Women are typically mothers, farmers, shepherds, and bakers.
Men, explorers, miners, foragers, hunters, trappers. Arguably smiths also since being distracted repeatedly by baby will get in your way to build an engine

Babies are only banned if they /die and if you're far enough from town it doesn't matter anyways since they'll be banned out of the middle of the wilderness which still opens them up to be born to town. Being male is basically for if you don't like raising kids or you have a dilemma about ditching babies in the wilderness/tossing them on the town fire.

If you're experienced as a player there's almost no reason to play male as the ability to have children is a greater upside since you can play male-lite by just never tending to children. The only time it's beneficial to play male is when the female population is too high as otherwise you'll boom//bust your population in an hour from 20 people from the server to like 5.

RodneyC86 · 2019-05-26 09:23:12

Tarr wrote:

RodneyC86 wrote:
You don't have to worry about kids and able to travel far and explore. Yeah you can do the same as a woman but that's wasted babies since dead babies will get banned from your family after they are abandoned.
It's also an abstract way roles and jobs are divided
Women are typically mothers, farmers, shepherds, and bakers.
Men, explorers, miners, foragers, hunters, trappers. Arguably smiths also since being distracted repeatedly by baby will get in your way to build an engine
Babies are only banned if they /die and if you're far enough from town it doesn't matter anyways since they'll be banned out of the middle of the wilderness which still opens them up to be born to town. Being male is basically for if you don't like raising kids or you have a dilemma about ditching babies in the wilderness/tossing them on the town fire.
If you're experienced as a player there's almost no reason to play male as the ability to have children is a greater upside since you can play male-lite by just never tending to children. The only time it's beneficial to play male is when the female population is too high as otherwise you'll boom//bust your population in an hour from 20 people from the server to like 5.

Ow shit, there's no family ban for dying in that manner? Still I think a lot babies /die when they are plopped off a running horse right? Or is it courtesy then not to and wait for starvation?

Tarr · 2019-05-26 09:30:39

Yeah, he removed the ban on babies forever ago because towns would ban a bunch of kids out whenever there was a famine. If your mom is on a horse you can always go for the coin flip and hope you're 100 tiles away from the town. Generally speaking I'll just /die as chances are good enough if she's speeding around on horseback she isn't close enough for the area ban to matter anyways.

Amon · 2019-05-26 09:41:50

If you're male, means you can work uninterupted, but doesen't prevent you from having children.
You can get married to a lovely lass and all her kids will be yours. Or become the godfather of half the village.

Spoonwood · 2019-05-26 15:32:55

Tarr wrote:

RodneyC86 wrote:
You don't have to worry about kids and able to travel far and explore. Yeah you can do the same as a woman but that's wasted babies since dead babies will get banned from your family after they are abandoned.
It's also an abstract way roles and jobs are divided
Women are typically mothers, farmers, shepherds, and bakers.
Men, explorers, miners, foragers, hunters, trappers. Arguably smiths also since being distracted repeatedly by baby will get in your way to build an engine
Babies are only banned if they /die and if you're far enough from town it doesn't matter anyways since they'll be banned out of the middle of the wilderness which still opens them up to be born to town. Being male is basically for if you don't like raising kids or you have a dilemma about ditching babies in the wilderness/tossing them on the town fire.
If you're experienced as a player there's almost no reason to play male as the ability to have children is a greater upside since you can play male-lite by just never tending to children. The only time it's beneficial to play male is when the female population is too high as otherwise you'll boom//bust your population in an hour from 20 people from the server to like 5.

I don't agree. Pein has mentioned that when he's done engines, he's been a male. Also, getting iron out of town before 40 best comes when male. Even getting branches in the home grassland is better done as male than as a fertile woman. Additionally, now that buildings have strong uses, getting limestone for plaster OR transforming big hard rocks to cut stones probably ends up better done by a male than a fertile woman.

Bob 101 · 2019-05-26 16:37:49

Nurseries do alot to relieve the burden. You still have to drop them off and you still cannot explore freely until you are 40.

I don't really like dealing with chain /die babies and twin birthes are especially taxing. Although sometimes you get best of both worlds if you don't get many kids.

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Keyin · 2019-05-26 19:44:49

There is no point. If the sexes were this way in real life, the same in every way except women have babies, and men are sterile females, we would live in a very different society.

Males would be aborted because it would be the 'end of your line'. Evolution would work its magic.. and people who have the most females would continue to grow as a percentage of the population, until female was the only sex. We would just be asexually reproducing females(some people actually think this is the way our species is going, look it up haha).

In real life though..in order for a man to qualify for many of the running events.. the time they need to make to qualify is less than the time of the female world record. Because females have wider hips, they gave up some speed in order to be more likely to carry a child to term. (also, testosterone is considered a performance enhancing drug)

Male role is protector>provider>reproduce. Men do not reproduce, so they are left as protector>provider for their sisters' kids because I guess their sisters' kids are most related.

Males have no edge in protection vs having another female protect you, they are equally likely to come out a winner in a fight.

Provider, you could argue men have a slight edge..I think the only thing you could argue is placebo affect. Something about looking at your male character makes you say "I can't just spend my adolescence standing around, feeding kids... I need to do something for the nursing women and their children..they need to stay here where it is safe... to keep the line going!". When in reality, if you were also female, the same exact thing could be said... you just have to let the children you birth starve, unless there is someone else out there willing to take them.

The village isn't worse off having an additional female who just gives birth to doomed babies as far as I can tell vs one less female. And if you happen to give birth when you're hauling in the iron/rabbits, it doesn't take much effort to take them to the nursery. Heck, the baby may even run towards another female once they realize you wont feed them(I do this fairly regularly, so many bad moms...) Meaning you don't even waste time feeding them.

So males and females are equally capable of protection

males and females are equally capable of provision

but males and females are not equally capable of reproduction

So, tie, tie, and +1 to female. Males are just nerfed females.

I think they should at least have edges in protection and provision. A grappling system where men have an edge, longer period of time before they die of injury, less cool down after murder on weapons, more max hunger pips, faster movement speed, less slowdown when carrying heavy objects, something to give them an edge.

Right now, the only time I play male is if I want to do some rp. Or if I really like the town I am in and I don't want to waste the time starving then trying to get back/don't want to upset my mom. Or if I think there's already a lot of females and we are nearing overpopulation. Imagine if females had birth-control...then even overpopulation wouldn't be a reason to play as male.

Rabbitologist · 2019-05-28 21:48:22

Actually I now understand.
I posted this post when the servers were in a time of peace.
Today I played and every time I was reborn, I was born to an Eve. The whole server is new.
One sad life was like this: I was a girl. I helped my mom gather bananas without any clothes on. Then I had more sisters and brothers, but most of them died. Then one day I was old enough to have babies. My mother was old and told me to move south. But I just couldn't. Too many kids. Around a fire. With a lot of tools. We were so close to actually creating steel. So I just couldn't leave.
Actually I know how to smith. But I just didn't have time.
My sisters and daughters didn't have time either. They needed to feed me and gather resources.
And they were all too young to feed babies.

It would've been a lot better if we had more males. But they all instantly killed themselves.

I died before I had a chance to retire from motherhood and be a technician grandma.

Sad. Just sad. That is the first time I wished I were a male.

Last edited by Rabbitologist (2019-05-28 21:53:15)

Keyin · 2019-05-28 21:59:01

Rabbitologist wrote:

It would've been a lot better if we had more males. But they all instantly killed themselves.
I died before I had a chance to retire from motherhood and be a technician grandma.

Maybe if men had a clear mechanical advantage, the way women do, they would be more inclined to stay.

And yeah, when there's a genocide going on somewhere else, all those people getting area banned = baby boom for towns that have a good amount of fertile women.

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