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#1 2019-04-21 04:59:49

pein
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Mini guide: Property sheep pen

revised a bit


2019-04-21 04:59:49
The new update provides cheap walls, which can make a sheep pen
Advantages
-fast to make
-no resources needed
-solidifies in 3 minutes if no one takes it down

Disadvantages:
-can be locked
-decays if no one owns it
-decays and releases sheep when family dies, so no value for new eves

Prediction: can be used to mark a sheep pen and extend it with better resources

so don't make more entrances, only one, diagonal corners plant berry top side, plant around with sugar cane
or adobe or stone or real fences
now is no reason to make oven bases or bell bases for it
make a proper half wall at least or use sugar if want it cheap

put boxes on bottom to see through it
4 boxes at least and an oven under it forming a front entrance
rest can be box or walls


actually is better to make 2x3
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it's decent and fast, just dump a 2x3 which is 21 clicks
then smash 21 times if you don't want to deal with it
a working pen

if no one makes it better, still can produce 6 sheep which is a huge yarn

then plant around it with sugar or adobe or stone blocks
or actually you can leave the rickety fences  inside it and let them decay
that takes 3 min approval, 20 min shaky, 30 min stands, 30 min rickety, 30 min and decays, then clean it out
if you build it up in 20 min then you can still cut the shaky

today i born in a place and the pen just disappeared, but made it back from adobe
so fences are not good for a final pen and don't make them huge

so if you make shears afterwards, you can plant trees around it
this style requires 25 sugar
maybe get a corner or the front tile or both as a proper adobe base and two home markers diagonal to it- works same way
cause the front fence will block the entrance otherwise
also the 3x3 is big and needs to remove the front ones to put boxes then is annoying if you cant, that's why 3x2
the cirers will be empty for a while

Sugar is same way griefeable but it stand if people don't grief it, kinda same for adobe or bell base, needing water or shovel doesn't really stop griefers if they really want to open a pen, and they can just kill all sheep if they don't want to remove things, so you are on their mercy anyway
if it's inside a property, you can use them as a wall, generally you want a pen, a water source and place to make compost

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this i made in a life where i made a pack and started like at 24
finished before 35
ask kids to water it

we had no girls, i raised 2 sons got 2 horses, found 2 veins
and this is gen 2, as youngest kid of the eve

Last edited by pein (2019-04-30 12:03:17)


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#2 2019-04-21 05:10:15

PeaGirl
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Re: Mini guide: Property sheep pen

Can't wait to give this a go, if I ever get to be an Eve... the game really had jumped in popularity after this update, it feels like.


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#3 2019-04-21 05:12:43

pein
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Re: Mini guide: Property sheep pen

oh man everyone wants to eve, seriously needs to be limited big_smile

i mean, go 200 tiles from a city and pseudo eve with no starting stuff, then we can have outposts at least


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#4 2019-04-21 15:03:39

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Re: Mini guide: Property sheep pen

pein wrote:

Sugar is same way griefeable but it stand if people don't grief it, kinda same for adobe or bell base, needing water or shovel doesn't really stop griefers if they really want to open a pen, and they can just kill all sheep if they don't want to remove things, so you are on their mercy anyway
if it's inside a property, you can use them as a wall, generally you want a pen, a water source and place to make compost
then a room and make the whole thing a house with a garden later on, the property fence just marks it for you and you build a wall inside it, so you need a big property, if you make a 5x5 pen then 5x5 garden and 5x5 room with oven that's decent, so you want 15x5 inner, 17x7 fence wall
but you can extend it later or if need more space

I don't like half-bell tower base sheep pens.  People can accidently dig them up.

I DO like full-bell tower base sheep pens even though they cost a bunch, but the cost has a good payoff... it's probably worth it.  Stone walls take 10 hours to become ancient, so a stone wall sheep pen just takes too long in my opinion for a continuous play settlement.  On the other hand, full bell tower base sheep pens only take 3 hours to stabilize to the immovable state (props to Frost on this who started locking up mosquitoes with bell-tower bases on s12 with me one time).  If only people upgraded half-bell tower base sheep pens to full belltower bases more often.  Perhaps if I play on the bigserver I should do that.  Or at least put that on the top of the list of projects to consider doing.

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#5 2019-04-21 16:06:18

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Re: Mini guide: Property sheep pen

oh they do it, bottom side to cover all up big_smile

i guess it doesn't matter as long as bottom is boxes/chests


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#6 2019-04-30 12:10:12

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Re: Mini guide: Property sheep pen

another type:

put 14 property fences and a diagonal line of berries
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this has 2 entrances, make sure one faces the city and one is facing a useless biome to dump bones
no the corners arent encessary, 5 bush for 5x5 (20 free tiles)

you can make it bigger, 6 bush and connect fences at 6 then will be 6x6-6 etc

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you can turn the way you want

straight bushes need extra 2 walls on entrance, diagonal doesn't even need the corner ones, just it's more box shape


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#7 2019-04-30 12:21:32

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Re: Mini guide: Property sheep pen

if you want to hide some resources or items like cart, lasso, horse
don't make it big just a few resources you don't want to share without asking
you can leave a note that they need to ask you
also you can control who enters there

you can put a property gate north side behind a tree
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i advise to use tiny tree mod
you can stil ldo it just not with poplar
they wont see it behind tree so they cant take rope or disapprove
once you got the gate approved, you can put the proposed fences, generally they accept it cause it's just fence

use tiny tree mod to make this easier
i think you see trough juniper and poplar well enough to place behind it, even yew
only works when your north gate is there, you cant open south gate like this
once it's approved you need to cut the tree anyway so you can enter both sides, from north you can enter but if someone closes it on you cant exit so if it's approved, enter with an axe and shovel


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#8 2019-04-30 12:33:51

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Re: Mini guide: Property sheep pen

Tiny tree mod is not released

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#9 2019-04-30 13:35:53

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Re: Mini guide: Property sheep pen

my bad big_smile

if you wan tiny trees , bother MR XIX for it big_smile


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#10 2019-05-07 10:10:54

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Re: Mini guide: Property sheep pen

So how would someone make something like the tiny tree mod? Is it changing the code? Changing the sprites? Kind of curious how to mod in general.

I really love the "StakeMeHigher" and "NowYouSee(d)Me" (even though this one is pretty much just for hot ovens, since most of these seeds are in bowls now. Which is still wonderful.). Maybe there would be a way to combine them. I would also like to try out this "Tiny Tree" mod, but I'm not sure how to reach out to MR.XIX (aside from hopefully catching him on the forums). And even then, there's no guarantee he'd let me use it if it's not openly available.

It makes me wonder how many other mods there are like the these, especially ones that people don't openly distribute. There isn't some place where these all can be found, is there? I find it unlikely, but maybe there is and I just don't know about it.


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#11 2019-05-07 10:34:38

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Re: Mini guide: Property sheep pen

if something follows the same rules, you can  apply a photoshop plugin on it
if it's like resize/recolor
for exampel turning all sprites sepia or grayscale

to find the items i use Grepwin, as the txt with them contains the name
it's a linux feature to search inside txt files from outside, works with net framework and some stuff but Grepwin looks better so far


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#12 2019-08-19 04:14:43

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Re: Mini guide: Property sheep pen

with the extended timers i don't see as good
weirdly if it decayed, people put effort to make something better
now with 2 hour decays, people just repair it so you never gonna replace those tiles, so rather just make a new near it


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