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#1 2018-09-26 01:24:33

Turnipseed
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New sheep pen meta

Adobe oven bases next best thing to pits!

Embrace it! . Its alot more work, but you can start sooner!  Enjoy the new ugly pits.

Below is the petition for new fence solutions vvv


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#2 2018-09-26 01:30:46

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Re: New sheep pen meta

Nope, that's not happening, GIANT waste of clay.  What will be a thing is grave pens becoming even more popular, as they were already a thing when pit pens were viable.

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#3 2018-09-26 01:36:46

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Re: New sheep pen meta

You can get plenty of adobe by just digging up reed stumps. None of that adobe was ever going to be clay in the first place. For my new teleporter set up I only ever used 15 actual clay and the other 15 adobe came from digging up stumps.  That alone is enough to my a 7x7 pen which is easily done sub 15 minutes or so.

If anything adobe pens allow you to make an oven wall which you can connect a track to and launch precooked mutton/pies out to the middle of the village.

I for one accept our new oven base overlords.


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#4 2018-09-26 01:37:18

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Re: New sheep pen meta

One suggestion I saw for fence pens was to make it so that you only needed to build a fence for every other tile, though I am not sure if this could be coded.

I am not so sure I am too supportive of this update, as although it does fix the whole pit pen meta, people will just counter that with graves or adobe.  I feel a foolproof way to stop this meta would be to make it so that sheep have the ability to go through graves, trash pits, as well as other solid objects they would realistically be able to "smooch around" 

    This way people would be forced to either build little homes for the sheep:) or build a nice, sturdy fence.  Also fences in general need to be fixed as I cannot tell you how easy it is to accidentally destroy a fence as a noob.

(Just make it so that you cannot take the shaft off of the fence)

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#5 2018-09-26 01:55:55

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Re: New sheep pen meta

Congrats to everyone who bitched and moaned about the horrendously ugly trash pit pens! Now you'll get to enjoy marked grave pens and adobe base pens instead, which are much more beautiful I think.

Hope you're happy with the change :D

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#6 2018-09-26 02:07:47

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Re: New sheep pen meta

there should be a nailed fence variety, one that took a special tool to remove.

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#7 2018-09-26 02:30:35

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Re: New sheep pen meta

Jk Howling wrote:

Congrats to everyone who bitched and moaned about the horrendously ugly trash pit pens! Now you'll get to enjoy marked grave pens and adobe base pens instead, which are much more beautiful I think.

Hope you're happy with the change big_smile

I know. Ugh. The worst part is now trash pits last five minutes. What's the use in that? No one will ever dig one again.

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#8 2018-09-26 02:32:36

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Re: New sheep pen meta

What could the new sheep pen recipe be now?


(also, trash pits are still useful if you want to build a pen that lasts 5 minutes)

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#9 2018-09-26 02:34:39

Anshin
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Re: New sheep pen meta

UnnoticedShadow wrote:

What could the new sheep pen recipe be now?

Free range sheep. Or having real herding dogs.

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#10 2018-09-26 02:36:23

Tarr
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Re: New sheep pen meta

UnnoticedShadow wrote:

What could the new sheep pen recipe be now?

Round stone + adobe = sheep pen base.


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#11 2018-09-26 02:39:06

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Re: New sheep pen meta

I mean for actual fences

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#12 2018-09-26 03:48:26

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Re: New sheep pen meta

Welcome to the new meta. Ended up having to use an adobe on the end of the bushes since a domestic mouflon actually moves further than a normal sheep. Ended up adding another four rows before dying as the original pen was a little too snug.

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#13 2018-09-26 03:51:52

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Re: New sheep pen meta

Woo good job tart


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#14 2018-09-26 03:53:00

Tarr
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Re: New sheep pen meta

Yeah probably could have made that better but I was too lazy to work around that tree. If they want a better pen they can water it and fix it.


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#15 2018-09-26 04:02:40

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Re: New sheep pen meta

Right one day this will be fixed and we will only have rose pens... then those are fixed and only grave pens. Then free roam sheep. Then jason will make sheep deadly then mabey... mabey we will use fences


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#16 2018-09-26 04:16:57

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Re: New sheep pen meta

Turnipseed wrote:

Right one day this will be fixed and we will only have rose pens... then those are fixed and only grave pens. Then free roam sheep. Then jason will make sheep deadly then mabey... mabey we will use fences

XD

To be fair, we might use fences if they weren't so easy to grief. It it weren't so easy to just remove the center shaft or to dig them up, we may use them more often. As it is, other things just work better.

On that note, isn't it a little too easy to remove adobe oven bases? All you would need is a bucket of water and a bowl and POOF! - no more pen.

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#17 2018-09-26 04:22:37

Anshin
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Re: New sheep pen meta

Tarr wrote:

Welcome to the new meta. ...

That is the fugliest thing ever. Thank you.
Jason, please make trash pits great again!

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#18 2018-09-26 04:37:10

Turnipseed
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Re: New sheep pen meta

VioletLily wrote:
Turnipseed wrote:

Right one day this will be fixed and we will only have rose pens... then those are fixed and only grave pens. Then free roam sheep. Then jason will make sheep deadly then mabey... mabey we will use fences

XD

To be fair, we might use fences if they weren't so easy to grief. It it weren't so easy to just remove the center shaft or to dig them up, we may use them more often. As it is, other things just work better.

On that note, isn't it a little too easy to remove adobe oven bases? All you would need is a bucket of water and a bowl and POOF! - no more pen.

But you still have the adobe a round stone fixes all yo problems


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#19 2018-09-26 04:58:16

Tarr
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Re: New sheep pen meta

VioletLily wrote:

On that note, isn't it a little too easy to remove adobe oven bases? All you would need is a bucket of water and a bowl and POOF! - no more pen.

Basically all pens are easy to grief. The only one that wasn't is going to be disappearing (trash pits.)

Adobe base pen - Flexible, easy set up time, easy to reconfigure. Cons: requires shovel to cut down on clay use, walls are able to be watered to be disabled, can be watered and made into kilns wasting three adobe at once.

Adobe oven pen - Sturdy, able to cook mutton/pies from within the pen, little harder to break. Cons: Requires double the amount of adobe, breaking an oven only refunds have the adobe spent, not able to redesign easily.

Grave pen - Converts suicide babies into something useful, easy in and out access, flat stones are easy to come by, extra storage spots. Cons: If not uncle'd someone will take a flat stone and release sheep, easy to release sheep, lowers the amount of available road/forge flat stones.

Uncle grave pen - Unbreakable, reminds you of all your uncles, extra storage space, harder to have an accidental sheep escape. Cons: Redesigning pen is a no go, uncle pen requires longest set up besides a fence pen, probably haunted, easy to block entrance and lose the entire pen.

Rose pen - Looks nice, smells nice, unbreakable. Cons: Easily blocked and made useless, long set up time based on how many wild roses you have, not able to remodel once finished, hard to make early.

Fence pen - Looks great, is actually something pens would be made of, different ways to set fence allow for different pen shapes and designs, made from renewable sources, easily reconfigured and expanded. Cons: Costly at two branches per one tile, easy to grief with either shovel or horizontal pieces getting their middle removed,  splinters, big pen is not early game friendly.

Basically make whatever pen you feel like. I'll be making adobe base pens as I'm already using that for teleporters in towns anyways.


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#20 2018-09-26 05:04:09

Turnipseed
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Re: New sheep pen meta

You forgot

Berry pen.

Hardened row pens

Pens made of berry sponging santan bots


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#21 2018-09-26 05:28:09

Anshin
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Re: New sheep pen meta

Pen is, or not pen is, that is the question.

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#22 2018-09-26 07:21:12

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Re: New sheep pen meta

I wonder what Jason thinks when he sees that players will use literally anything else rather than the actual fences. I think Oven pens have the benefit of being able to cook excess mutton on the spot.


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#23 2018-09-26 07:28:13

pein
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Re: New sheep pen meta

bone pen, while moving 108 soil is hard, moving 144 bones is easy xD
still working on the hardened row pen, has some potential with stew plants

tarr, if you uncle 3 sides, and leave one side flexible, yeah its griefable but can be extended over time, also if you build 2 of them near each other you reuse the walls on one side at least

dont forget box pens and chest pens, boxes block movement and has 4 storage, only can be dragged away with a sledge, chests are fixed and non decaying, rope cost is high

half adobe wall pen
adobe wall pen
same as oven base and its almost good looking


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#24 2018-09-26 07:47:00

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Re: New sheep pen meta

I like box pen idea best. Also, it is really convenient to store excess mutton and tools into them.

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#25 2018-09-26 08:08:05

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Re: New sheep pen meta

Yeah I was just posting a bunch of different things since people been being goofy all day about what pen is new meta. I would have included box/chest pens but that is something that comes after you already have sheep rather than being your starter pen.

If anything start adobe then follow up by changing out some of the sides for something like chests for better storage.

I'm sure we'll figure out the actual meta eventually. Best ideas sound like either adobe or a combination of a permanent pen with 1-2 adjustable sides that can be adjusted or replaced with boxes/chests/whatever.

Last edited by Tarr (2018-09-26 08:28:14)


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