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#1 2018-05-13 22:13:16

pein
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milkweed watering

so now milkweed needs to be watered to regrow, or just picking it bad means you need to water to fix it?


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#2 2018-05-13 22:27:41

breezeknight
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Re: milkweed watering

i also wonder how it can be used
in any case one needs a shovel, so nothing for a beginner settlement
& what happens when it gets watered but the stakes not removed ?

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#3 2018-05-13 22:29:17

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Re: milkweed watering

maybe replanting like berry, but i never done that either


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#4 2018-05-13 22:41:59

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Re: milkweed watering

i will do such elaborate town activities first after i am able to found my own family line & able to set out the town's blueprint
so that will take a while, if i'm lucky

well, maybe i'll do it once to test it, or will do it because nobody else does it
as with everything else

though i would like to be able to make a town's blueprint on my own & not just deal with the leftovers of others
the lack of own creations is detaching players from the gameplay, lack of care or at least severely lowered care is the result then

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#5 2018-05-14 01:56:06

pein
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Re: milkweed watering

i always tend to make my own small buildings or corners
centralized wont work cause everyone will be there and leach a lot
decentralized farms work cause of ponds are being drained each 5 mins and others dont bother with a small farm with a cistern, they want the big farm and make all its wells dry and then cry for seeds. if you born into big town, you can borrow some tools and make your own room and keep things in order


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#6 2018-05-14 02:25:25

Lily
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Re: milkweed watering

I have messed around with it, so I am not sure, but I think the new stuff is just to remove it. Like if you have the stalk in a bad location, instead of waiting for an hour you can put the stakes down, water it, then dig it up. It is kind of a pain, so people don't grief cities with it. I don't think you actually have to water them for normal use.

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#7 2018-05-14 02:30:17

abliss
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Re: milkweed watering

You can also stake a milkweed stump if you accidentally harvest it when it's not fruiting.
(edit: oh, that's probably what pein meant by "picking it bad.")

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#8 2018-05-14 09:09:18

Mr.XIX
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Re: milkweed watering

Lily wrote:

I have messed around with it, so I am not sure, but I think the new stuff is just to remove it. Like if you have the stalk in a bad location, instead of waiting for an hour you can put the stakes down, water it, then dig it up. It is kind of a pain, so people don't grief cities with it. I don't think you actually have to water them for normal use.

^This is the case. No need to water stumps, I don't think you can even water "bad picked" milkweed

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#9 2018-05-14 09:33:56

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Re: milkweed watering

Mr.XIX wrote:

..., I don't think you can even water "bad picked" milkweed

in best case one would need to be very fast & have already stakes & a shovel ready nearby, which sounds rather illusoric,
one picks bad usually either because
one doesn't care at all, or is outright a griefer, or picked it by accident & is too surprised to do something about it


this brings me to another limitation with OHOL
the lack of options to carry bigger things other than by blocking the hands, starting with babies, progressing to a bow & ending up with carts needed because the shovel just doesn't go with the backpack unlike usually IRL backpacks are constructed to support the users & not to limit them

here in many threads there are so many recurring ideas about a nomadic life but such is not really possible because the gameplay favours settlements with the same tech tree climbing over & over again

i would love to play OHOL as a stone age simulation but i am being forced already towards forging because there is no help against snakes other than an elaborately forged knife, a simple life is not possible, a nomadic life is not really enjoyable, a historic life is not envisioned, so the gameplay is rather a tunnel of more or less the same settlement building & its upkeep, no wonder griefers & murderers come up, just to make things more interesting

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#10 2018-05-14 11:42:20

Mr.XIX
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Re: milkweed watering

breezeknight wrote:

in best case one would need to be very fast & have already stakes & a shovel ready nearby, which sounds rather illusoric,
...

This feature is intended to be hard to execute.
We 'need' a way to remove stomps that will otherwise be there for a full hour.
With only a shovel needed, we get the whole "the berry farm is grieved" situation again.
That is why a more difficult recipe is added (which is pretty easy to do with multiple people, which encourages teamwork).

TL;DR This is just adding the berry-bush removal to milkweed.

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#11 2018-05-14 13:49:39

pein
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Re: milkweed watering

it didnt seem to work for me, it allows to put stakes on any stump, you can water it but you cant remove it
yesterday tried to remove one as it was next to sheep pen, but shovel worked removing it before, now not

people should really place milkweed farms and berry farms next to a bit more distant pond complex which otherwise never gets used cause of distance


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#12 2018-05-14 18:19:47

Mr.XIX
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Re: milkweed watering

pein wrote:

it didnt seem to work for me, it allows to put stakes on any stump, you can water it but you cant remove it

I just tried, and I didn't manage to place stakes on a "bad picked milkweed stump" (being flowering picked milkweed).

pein wrote:

yesterday tried to remove one as it was next to sheep pen, but shovel worked removing it before, now not

The only stump you were able to dig up with a shovel before was a sapling stump, if I recall correctly.

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#13 2018-05-14 21:14:52

pein
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Re: milkweed watering

you are right, just 99% of games i got no reason to remove a milkweed, but this time i had a pen, and that milkweed denied a corner entrance.


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#14 2018-05-14 22:54:54

YAHG
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Re: milkweed watering

Would be nice if by watering them they would regrow faster too though.
I guess removing them is good enough if you have to sometimes.

If people really wanted to waste water they can still water the adobe..


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