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#1 Re: Main Forum » New towns getting kerosene and engines before even making newcomen » 2020-04-11 08:07:58
two or 3 days ago i was in early stage black town. but by just scouting i found a died out town 300 meter away so i asked some people to help me to get all the stuff to our town. in one lifespan we had horses, ton of tools , buckets, cloth, firewood of doom but still no kerosine or engine. the dead town had neewcommon well. it was just lucky. i understand that u want biuld all from scratch. but if u have the chance to get some help, why u wont use it? i play sometimes on an empty server so i have the experience biulding all from scratch on your own. there will come a die when servers whipe complete again and all must start from scratch.
#2 Re: Main Forum » Sheep needs a change » 2020-04-07 08:41:48
bio - kerosine from poop would be a think xD xD xD
but then we dont need ginger anymore.
from one poop u can get an goose + soil.
its decay anyways if u let them on the ground.
if we had more water sources , your sheep proplem would disapear i think.
but im mostly bake mutton pies so for me its still fine atm.
#3 Re: Main Forum » Iron Math » 2020-04-07 01:40:00
i will dead in the time the spot runs out. so other people need to do it but yea. would be a think.
sometimes i have to much to do and so less time for all that stuff 
find terry, gather it , spread it to the towns, be the hero.
#4 Re: Main Forum » Iron Math » 2020-04-06 20:23:45
so 330 iron in a dream scenario 
if we spread them for 4 town its 82,5 iron.
and we need some water so another half we have average 40 iron per town per pumpjack if 11 uses triggers and all is fair traded
#5 Re: Main Forum » Finding other towns/experts is STILL a pain, and how I'm fixing it » 2020-04-06 14:31:11
maybe if u buff the terry spots or make them unlimited.
A Scenario:
Ginger have one terry spot near his town.
The first uses are fast done. instead of instantly searching i new and far away terry spot we maybe can upgrade the spot like the mines now.
they wont constantly search new spots 1k+ tiles away (u need to travel everytime between home and spot and that will cost so much life time).
idk with what. with another diesel engines its maybe unrealistic. or make them more times useable and stick with every use needs a new tire.
i like the mining update but atm the oil is unbalanced with this uüdate. your town needs water and iron in order to survive. And that costs much oil.
if ginger still are the only one who can gather oil for all the spots need a buff maybe.
we can still trade even if its buffed. i played some ginger lives and i always was searching new spots and make semi roads out of pine needles. if its to far i still cant reach the home back.
i can make a map in stone sure. but still there is the 1k+ travel proplem.
idk my idea is more spots or longer live spots. that will help allot in.
i dont want oil to be easy. but a better acess would be good i think.
#6 Re: Main Forum » Iron Math » 2020-04-06 12:57:18
https://onetech.info/2308-Oil-Pumpjack
Also only gingers can make oil, they feed other families too with it, so one pumpjack isn't really that much.
thats why i sayed i done this on an empty server. in reallife my scenario would never happens.
ok. then i understand some people why they hate the update so much. maybe the oil needs a small buff or so to balance it with this new update.
but atm it still looks fine for me. just need more oil
and thanks. i will stick to onetech then for now if the wiki is so outdated :S
#7 Re: Main Forum » Iron Math » 2020-04-06 12:53:14
now i more confused then before xD
hm. maybe i thought the oil spot to powerful. 5 uses isnt that much. ok if its min and a 3% chance to exhaust (if i understand you right) then still its ok. i should try tomorrow how often i can
use my oil spot. i have one use with oil atm. i will write it down here then
#8 Re: Main Forum » Iron Math » 2020-04-06 12:43:42
hm. even with 11 its still 330 iron theoretical.
is 11 the max or the min with a chance to use more after that?
#9 Re: Main Forum » Iron Math » 2020-04-06 12:26:45
Sorry for my english. i havnt used translator and im not that good. im from germany. hope u all still understand what i written down <3
#10 Main Forum » Iron Math » 2020-04-06 12:25:39
- Silanar
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The Math is at the end of the post.
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So. I played 3 days on an empty server to learn on my own a diesel engine and all the stuff to get there + oil. (unlucky 7 pipes to brake the oil open or is that normal? idk i never done that before) i only mined one mine from scratch. after i had kerosine i had clearly 0 iron left. i done only to must have to my town so i havnt biuld many tools + i hadnt biuld newcommen well. The last 3 buckets for oil rig i filled with ponds because i didnt wanted to mine the secound mine atm. i made some hoes and axes and shovels.
the wiki says (not onetech) u can use a terry spot minimum of 20 uses. after thats its random if the spot get exhausted or not (5% chance).
so now the theoretical math;
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u get 6 kerosine from one krude oil. thats 6 used of diesel mine engine. every use cost one chisel (1 iron worth). per use u get 6 iron (- one for chisel so theoretical 5 iron). If we stick to the minimum 20 oil we would get 20*6 uses = 120 uses. so 120 * 5 (- 1 iron included for chisel) = 600 iron what u can theoretical get from a mine. In reallife we need oil for water to so in normal scenario we wouldnt get 600 iron + other towns need oil too so u havnt a whole terry spot for you alone. (unless you are a poor ginger town what dont care about the others ).
6*20 kerosine = 120 uses on mine
1 use = 6 iron (-1 chisel so 5 iron)
120* 5 = 600 iron
that could be more if the 5% wont trigger on the oil spot (if this is still the actuel case idk. havnt tryed it out. im happy that i finally learned all that stuff on my own )
whats your thoughts about that?
keep in mind that i done this on an empty server so i had full control of the iron the whole time.
on normal server that would never be happen like that and idk if a diesel mine ever exhaust but i dont think so. so yea. Oil is now the important and limited source. (5% chance seems still ok for me. we will live long as 4 towns with that.)
#11 Re: Main Forum » Tomasz and Cecil » 2019-06-24 23:16:20
yeah the king was really really funny u had a crush on him right?
i couldnt find you anymore. i meeted his mom. but she was old so we made a grave for her.
i was the entire life on the berry farm and in the kitchen
im 100% sure we all meet again <3
i often name my girls Clara and Selina
#12 Re: Main Forum » Tomasz and Cecil » 2019-06-24 02:15:34
awwwwww what a hug post <3 <3 <3 soo sweet. i finally found you in the forum thaaaaank yooooouuuuuu <333 :3333 ^-^
i have a screenshot to in Steam Community hub. My name is [ETBC]Silanar
tbh i wrote two sentences...... i feel so bad now.
anyways. it was one of my best lifes i ever had. totally fun to play and stick around with you. hopefully we meet one day again. :3
ps: hope its ok to post the link to the screenshot here: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/ … 1779394684
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