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Not sure what you guys want here....

I've made wine from scratch in real life, and I made it just like it's made in the game, using a clay crock and glass bottles.  I didn't use a funnel, because I had a pyrex measuring cup with a spout that I used to fill the bottles.  More advanced than a glass funnel.

People have been asking for glass blowing and bottles forever.

The bottles will be used for other stuff besides wine in the future, like storing multiple bowls of salt, vinegar, palm oil, etc.

If you've been playing this game for a while, I hope you've come to notice and appreciate the somewhat realistic "maker" aesthetic in this game, where making something in-game feels somewhat akin to making something in real life.  This is unlike other crafting games where you take X wood and Y stone to make an axe.  In this game, you actually build the axe from scratch, step by step.

So I'm not sure how you were expecting to grow grapes and make bottles of wine in such a context.  Obviously, it was going to take dozens of new steps.

Same for pumpkin pie.  Were you expecting me to phone it in and just have PUMPKIN + PIE CRUST?

Surely you're joking, Mr. Tipy.  You have to cook the custard first, and it's going to require sugar.

The collective is comprised of individuals, of course.

This is the primary tension of civilization.

There is no guarantee that dumping all resources in a communal pile and saying, "go for it, everyone" is what's best for the collective.  In fact, historical examples tend to run contrary to that notion, like the body count of 30 million laid at the feet of the Great Leap Forward.

Private property, which is present in some form in every modern human society that I'm aware of (even the collective ones) may be the "default" because it works so well.  The efficiency and motivational gains may make up for whatever inherent injustices private property entails.  The contrast between 30 million people starving to death and no one at all starving to death is pretty stark.

That said, I'm not convince that private property inside the game is the most efficient mechanism for organizing in-game society.  There are a bunch of different forces at work in-game.

But in a village that is looking low on food (every berry bush empty), if I want to ensure that all of my children live to 60, having a bit of private food production infrastructure doesn't sound like a terrible idea.

Farming was already blocked in the arctic.... there was just a glitch that allowed deep tilled row to be made from a whole huge soil pile (a waste of soil, right?)

That was always a bug, though, and it makes walls insecure (which fights locks).

There could be some other kind of "insulated shelf" added in the future to make up for this.

Yeah, I can just have a non-curve factor in there.  If you go negative, you lose a slot right away, and then if you go below 40, you lose 2.

Also, it's not totally unreasonable to use a lookup table for this instead of a math curve.  I could just hard-code some ranges that make sense to me.  But the curve is good for now.

Also, this new curve will have to be adjusted based on the scores people actually get, given that the SIDs exploit has been closed.

And here it is showing the rounding that will convert it to an integer number of tool slots:

Here's the current curve:

New Eve is spawned if:

1.  We ever get more than 13 people per fam, on average.

2.  There's ever more than 1 helpless BB per fertile mother on average.

I'm pretty sure 2 is causing the extra families currently.  I may need to adjust it to 1.5.  I think we had it at 2 for a while, and mothers still felt overloaded.

Experimented with marked-births long ago.  It didn't work on its own.  You know, if 8+ people cursed you within the last few hours, you were born with black speech bubbles.

All it takes is one mother to keep such a baby, and then the same griefer is right back in your village.  There was some interesting emergent story stuff around protecting a cursed child...

Anyway, after that didn't really work, Donkey Town was invented.

Then later, personal curses, with D-town only if you are cursed out of every available birth location.

Imprisonment is interesting.... it may be do-able with the current engine.  Imagine a baton that slows you down more than normal if you're acting alone, but if people join your posse, you speed up.  So griefers can't use the baton very easily.

The baton could inflict a wound that prevents motion, sorta like fishing prevents motion.

But then what?  You'd really want to move the person to the prison somehow, and I'm not sure how to do this....

I mean, picking up another adult person is gonna look weird, there's no to ways about it...  Though maybe the humor of picking them up as if they were a baby would be worth it.  I'd have to experiment with that.

I'm wondering if there's some way to "knock" someone from one tile to another, and then you could push them into jail.

Okay, when this goes live tomorrow, I'll bring everyone back to 30.

Well, you can still kill people, right?

I mean, I guess beheading people could have its place....

Cursing is actually a metaphysical act (it affects future births).