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First, I think it's important that you understand this system.

The 30-day thing has been there for MONTHS.  If you curse someone, they won't be born near you for 30 days.  Nothing has changed there.

What has changed is that if they somehow make it back to your town (or they get born in your town before you get born there, so you are born into a situation where they are already around), you will be able to see them as marked and identify them.

But remember, these marks only appear to YOU, the person who cursed them.  Other people won't see the marks.

Yes, framing nonsense is possible.  Griefers claiming they see a baby as marked, when they really don't.  Well, they can instantly see them as marked for real by cursing them.

However, if multiple people see the same person as marked, then you have strong evidence that they are bad.  Though the likelihood of that happening is slim, b/c one of those people would have likely blocked the griefer from being born there in the first place.

The main thing this is for is to help identify traveling visitors.  They weren't born here, so I might not trust them... are they marked?

Real life 30 days.

So...  I have the random names working.  So one griefer is DOLL KING and the other one is STONE BLOOM.  You can recognize them in future lives, b/c they will always have the same cursed name.  This seems good.  Outside the game, you can take notes and remember the really bad ones.  Also, the name shows up for you as soon as you curse them, if they're still alive when you curse them.

The names use a server-side secret to generate, so you can't guess your own name.  Of course, you can ask people what your cursed name is.

Question:    should names be universal?  Should we both see guy X as DOLL KING if we both have him cursed?  So we can conspire on Discord about this DOLL KING guy?

Seems like it could be used by griefers to target and harass.  Whereas if we saw the same guy as a different name each, we couldn't use it to group-target someone across lives.

I'll leave it as a live server setting, and also give myself the ability to turn the whole perma-name thing off if need-be.

The initial idea for personal curses was two-way.

Just seems like someone is going to end up shooting off their own foot with that by accident.  By the time you realize it's too late (no place for you to be born), it's too late to fix it.

Cursing is just a personal marking system, so there really shouldn't be a consequence for over-using it, or some way that it can backfire against you.

I'm also wondering if.... somehow.... you could get more info about the people you cursed instead of having them lumped together.  Like each person you curse gets assigned a code-word, and if you encounter them later, you see that word?

So PENNY is that person you cursed for killing all the sheep.
And CAVE is that person you cursed for being rude.
And BASKET is that person ou cursed for killing a whole town.

Later on, if you see CAVE around, they might get a pass, but BASKET would cause you to sound the alarm bells and warn everyone around.

Could be exploited for friends to find each other next life, but the fact that they can't be born near you would put a damper on that.

Why are you the bad guy in your story?

Get the town behind you, explain what's going on, and then kill with the law on your side.

And yeah, if enough people want to kill you, you will die in real life.  That is how society works.  Direct and indirect democracy especially.  We enact laws to indicate specifically who we're going to exercise systematic violence against.  "X is illegal" simply means "We will commit violence against you if you do X."

Most people who break law X give up in the face of lesser forms of violence, but make no mistake:  full-scale lethal violence is always waiting in the wings.  The "law" has long arms indeed.  Even the tiniest infraction, such as littering, will lead to your death if you fervently resist their initial attempts to enforce the petty misdemeanor laws against you.

Try going for a 5-star GTA run in real life and see what happens.  Helicopters will be deployed, and eventually tanks.

Even in Sweden.

Well, there are two problems.

1.  What to do about someone who is causing trouble NOW, as in this moment, in this life.  If you say STOP, and they don't stop, you need to have some way to enforce your town's rules against them.  Hopefully, this will be as thematically appropriate as possible (and not through a magic spell that teleports them away or whatever).  In the context of human history and human present, this is how we deal with people who just won't stop:  with violence.  In every country and every society, no matter how peaceful.  You're suggesting "less extreme" forms of violence, other than killing.  Like, you know, life in prison.  But you can't have prison without violence.  "Non-lethal" options indeed.  Incapacitate someone until they give in, and then lock them up so they're as good as dead.  While the idea of locking someone up in-game might fill you with glee, I really don't see the point, beyond making the human on the other end suffer a lost hour of playtime.  Maybe that is enough of a disincentive to cure all griefing, generally.  But what's good for the goose is good for the gander.  What would you rather have happen to YOU:  murdered and instantly reborn, or locked up and force-fed for 45 minutes?  Imagine the team of griefers who kidnap people and ruin the game for them...

2.  What about someone who causes trouble long-term, across lives.  Fortunately, this is NOT a problem that we face in real life (the dead stay dead, the life-imprisoned stay locked up until they die on their own accord).  We don't have whack-a-mole in real life, nor alt accounts.  So, it seems to me that some kind of "magic" solution is needed for the problem caused by the magic of reincarnation.  Thus, Curses.

Perhaps in an interconnected world, Curses just aren't working to stop the people that you don't like from finding their way back to you, life after life.  Maybe they need to be stronger....

What if there was a kind of "circle of protection" around you, where no cursed person could set foot without getting sick or something?  When you step into this circle, you get a sickening feeling like this is a bad place, and you drop what you're holding, or get insta-hungry, or whatever.

But again, you can already build your own circle of protection.

Curse every griefer (2 per hour, 28 per week, if you play 2 hours per day).  That will prevent them from being born in your town.

Then build a fence around your town.

Also, I now realize that people you have cursed, if they ever find their way back to you, should be marked FOR YOU.

That may actually be the missing link here.

Because someone comes a-knocking at your gate.  Friendly stranger, or past-life griefer?  Currently, there's no way to tell....

I will reiterate that killing someone solo is supposed to be mostly impossible.  If you're the only person around who thinks a given person should die, they probably shouldn't die.

The only case that should be possible is guarding an area with a bow.  You say KEEP AWAY FROM HERE, and then stand there with a bow and a bead on them.  If they come close, they die.

Having a little trouble reproducing this, even on the live server in a busy town.

I got it to jump back once or twice while holding the mouse button down, but not consistently.  The second time, I froze in place after and had to click again to keep moving.  Is that what you're experiencing?

Can anyone capture this in a quick video?

Yes, this fixes the problem that I was having.

I'll check this in for now, and try tackling the full monty tomorrow and see if I can keep my sanity.

Okay, here are some screens of what I've got for East-moving carts and tracks (no curves).

https://imgur.com/a/l7wNuqv

For some reason, this isn't working, and all the carts (which start on west-ends in my test) crash after I wind them up.  The only one that seems to work is where a West-end is hooked directly to an East end.

What am I missing here?  I've been staring at this way too long today...