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1v1 a killer?

In what context?

How did they kill in the first place, if 1v1 is impossible?

Oh, they had a posse of other people backing them, which allowed them to kill?  Then they have support, and you shouldn't be able to 1v1 them.

1v1, by definition, means there's no consensus that the victim should die.  You are acting unilaterally.  I.e., without justification.  At least not enough justification to convince 2 other peeps to agree with you.

The cap of 3 for min posse size is an arbitrary choice for now.  If coordinated griefer teams are the only ones killing, and they reliably form posses of 3, then I will up it to 4 or 5 or whatever is necessary.

Each new person required makes forming a coordinated team dramatically more difficult.  Forming a team of N is N^2 hard.

I want it to essentially get to the point where the ONLY people killed are those committing other non-murder crimes.  Where the whole village agrees and decides the person should die.

With leadership, organizing a group of four or 5 isn't that hard in-game.  Exile the target, so they can't hear the orders, and then use order messages to conspire against them.

This particular log wasn't in place on Monday.

I added some kill-logging a few days ago.

Here's a sample of all the solo kills from a few hour period and who did them.  I've marked in green all the ones that are "innocent" victims with no blood on their hands yet.

I've marked in yellow group kills.

2689337 by 2689284
2689373 by 2689369
2689421 by 2689403
2689421 by 2689407
2689389 by 2689407
2689407 by 2689406
2689442 by 2689518
2689518 by 2689436
2689482 by 2689490
2689483 by 2689499
2689455 by 2689477
2689502 by 2689490
2689490 by 2689505
2689505 by 2689498
2689492 by 2689562
2689562 by 2689477
2689477 by 2689563
2689531 by 2689498
2689499 by 2689563
2689557 by 2689506
2689498 by 2689563
2689578 by 2689515
2689515 by 2689570
2689515 by 2689506
2689562 by 2689498
2689498 by 2689563
2689563 by 2689506
2689562 by 2689526

15 out of 24 solo kills were done in cold blood.

Only ONE of the 5 group kills was done in cold blood.

I.e., 62% of the solo kills that are happening are done out of the blue, without prior blood as justification.  If you're contention is that they're all thieves being killed, well.... probably not.  More likely, they are griefers bugging people by killing.

The other 38% of the kills are revenge kills (done in warm blood).

The idea that griefers are banding together constantly to get people is also not supported by the data.

In a sample 15 hour period more recently, there were 73 solo kills, 6 group kills, and 11 instances of healing to stop a kill.

You guys got that?  92% of kills are solo kills, currently.

7% of kills are group kills.

So the VAST majority of kills are not due to "griefers ganging up on people," but instead griefers acting alone (or, perhaps, justifiable solo kills of thieves and such, but if the person is such an agreed-upon problem, a group kill shouldn't be hard to achieve).

What's really crazy is that Lopez, who's second place on that list, was convicted of killing 100+ people, but later released on "good behavior," and is now at large.

Aha!  Found the bug for the Empress thing.

In a flat hierarchy, it will indeed essentially count followers instead of layers.  Fixing it.

Times have, apparently, changed!

I definitely saw a king in my most recent game.

It's strange that this "bootstrapping," which only creates Ladies automatically, resulted in people actually using the leadership system full-bore.  I saw multiple people picking leaders and switching leaders during my lifetime, and leaders issuing orders, etc.

Maybe people were just reminded of it?

Or maybe the cheat-sheet on the PAUSE screen suddenly woke everyone up to all the hidden possibilities?

Yeah, all the new arrows are totally broken.  Baby arrows, arrows pointing to your leader, arrows pointing to your followers.  They don't offset properly by your birth location.

Will hot-fix today.

Kinrany, Mom doesn't have to choose..... babies can chose to follow their mom later, who then is following the other leader.  Mom hears from higher up, and also can give orders to children.

Current model, the whole thing is FLAT unless people opt-in to more leadership.  I.e., there is at most a LADY if no one opts in to anything else.  That's a fine and non-confusing title.

So, Eve becomes a Lady to her kids.

She remains a Lady to her grandkids and great gandkids.  She doesn't become a Baroness or a Countess automatically as her family grows.

If she dies without picking an heir, the whole thing starts over again with kids following their own moms again.

You only get higher-level leaders if SOMEONE voluntarily follows someone else.

So, if you are seeing a SUPREME EMPRESS title on Granny, that's because some kings and queens have voluntarily followed her.  Because she is trustworthy.

The higher the title, the more people trust the person.

There are also engineering constraints.

You have a variable flow of incoming players.

Someone needs to be the parent of each of these players.

To make the interactions as meaningful and real as possible, neither mother nor babies can be bots.

Furthermore, I want almost everyone to join the game as a helpless baby.

Mating mechanics mean that people can chose whether or not to have babies, meaning that existing players can control the flow of incoming players.  When there's a mismatch between how many players are trying to join and how many players have chosen to have a baby, we have a problem.

In a 10,000 foot view of humanity where each second is six days, I have to pick which details to include, and which to leave out.  I chose to leave out mating, and thus birth control.

There already are rainbow clothes, right?

And you thought that was rain filling your wells!

Nay, it is me weeping tears of joy.

The point, Kinrany, is that you will never have to deal with seeing a cursed baby get born.

Yeah, there are roads, but those don't help distant babies get born near you.

As soon as a mother migrates to your town via a road, NONE of her babies will be cursed for you.  By being near her when her babies are born, you block any cursed babies from coming into your town through her.

Outsiders can travel to your town, but they will not be newborn babies.

On rare occasion, an outsider mother might bring a young cursed child (2-3 years old) to your town.

Anyway, the initial curse system (pre d-town) had babies that were marked for everyone.  That presented an annoying problem, where you had to decide how to treat cursed babies.  Killing them was just busy-work.

This new "marked people" system has the emergent property of never marking incoming babies, so it dodges that annoying problem.