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it isn't even about the length or the values. the whole framework is flawed long ago.

5 years is overkill, I mean if he really wants to he should ban people. jason embraced the communist 5 year plan.

he is making bandaid fixes. this healing block is for the group vs group fights where coordination and skill matters. I'm not a griefer, got some curses, adding up on an old account, I could show some stats and replays on just how dumb it looks like, I have 2 instances of having 5-6 curses for literally no reason. if those players who cursed me would see the replay would have zero clue what thye cursed me for. but it's permanent and irrevocable.

I play mostly solo and obviously got disadvantage against groups. most people don't understand leadership, curses, posses, none of these magical intangible features. yet you expect to replace actual moderation by subjective opinions. the majority is not always right, the majority is just the majority, if you listen to their whims and feelings you end up miserable. right or wrong doesn't depend on someones sensitivity and people with no standards or principles can yapp all they want, it's just sheep mentality and peer pressure.

and the issue is that these features became way too important and it's not based on something real and tangible. leaders don't always are the most bright or competent ones yet they get a lot of power over others. and curses are just the revenge of the cowards who can't really handle a situation otherwise, you need two people for a conflict, at least, so neither side is good or evil sometimes and it's not like one side just gonna admit his fault so I don't see why it should apply one way, if anything you should always curse people who cursed you, even if you are wrong. and so many of these anti griefers got so much interactions, so many outgoing curses and none received I don't even know what they do all their lives other than yapping. if anything all the slander, framing and pointless curses are the issue.

I'm not a hero either, and don't want to be the saviour all the time, or sacrifice myself for others. ofc you could choose to save yourself and that drags you into drama. I was defending towns and you need 2-3 veterans not 25 newbies who got no clue about whats happening. cities will be killed just the same.

if you look at some perspetives it's already obvious how flawed the system is. if you curse someone for any reason they are evil. but if you are cursed by the evil then what are you? you can pick up curses for trying to stop bad intended people too. tolerance is not a virtue. if anything everyone just gonna end up with more curses, especially solos who get in the way of groups. it's all about power, not morality or logic.

so this system can't replace real moderation and it's not even promoting any sort of communication or forgiveness or cooperation. I'm all for segregation, if anything they will be worse off without me. also kind of dumb that if curses are equal the first person to join blocks out the other, and then when he takes a break the other might join and it's reversed.

basically around 50-60 curses you will be blocked out of the main area for a single player who cursed you. if that curse is invalid the whole punishment is unfair. ofc you can still get trough anyway at different times or situations. the other day there were like 9 people in donkey town and people choose to die and come back as it was actually looking better. Some people are so ready to be offended they curse at the first tiny opportunity, everyone would do the same then everyone would be blocked out randomly. And new players or new accounts can easily abuse this. And then some other bandaid fix comes. jason seems to teach a lesson or provew a point but this makes no sense this way. he really tries to force an outcome and it's not happening. if you need a virtual hr meeting in the game to do anything and there is a 'right way to play' it's not really a game.

it's basic logic
you still assume everything is black and white and good people who claim they are good they are actually good and bad ones are admitting they are bad.
it's not about moral right or logical thinking, people had cults and murdering male characters, none of it is moral or logical, and if you refused you got killed. there are situations where the logical or moral perspective is opposite, when both are true then I would say is the conclusion is usually right. otherwise just beliefs and opinion, personal truths and forcing on others is not a good thing.

cursing would be a way to self govern and on average the more cursed people would be the bad guys or the disagreable people. there is no limit on who can you curse and for what reason and who decides if you were right or wrong. it's subjective.

having the bigger group agree on anything would put you morally righteous and punish people for not submitting to your whims.

so your assumption that the majority would be right in every case or in average is wrong. this kind of thinking ignores the exceptions. there are plenty of disagrements, misunderstandings, framing and complaining. bunch of people would support the one crying harder without any proof or evidence.  there are plenty of cases when people just curse whoever you ask you to. and plenty of cases where the leader or the bad guy is decided because they were born earlier or they 'report' others 'behaviour' first if all else is equal.
so this one sided cursing Is clearly not working because of flawed theories. people don't really have principles they just use toxic positivism and give their empathy to whoever claims it's a victim. they even provide empathy when you didnt ask for it. but then when accountability is the question they blame others and do nothing. tolerance is not a virtue.

nobody would be a prisoner in an online game for long.

tool slots were awful. limiting on what can you do is not a great idea. or it needs balancing. and rather than punishments, add bonuses.

families were mixed originally, I don't think it will come back ever.

leadership defienetily needs to be based on skill and have some apm and account age limitations. before 50 hours they can't even navigate and before 200 they don't see the big picture. recipes can be learned faster or slower and you might end up knowing everything earlier or later than others, but bad leaders give bad orders.

meritocracy is generally the best way of ordering things and having an order based on things you can't control is not a good solution. generally I would agree that the 20-30 range players are new or hostile, but I don't see much difference on 40-55, you can gian score in estabilished cities, living long eating food others made. you could survive in new eve camps doing everything right and punished for others not being able to survive. the server also needs certain resources so some of the /die should be justified and free if people care about the shared goals. living out your lfie in the given scenario helps the roleplay but it's not always the best service to others. force feeding new players (accounts) would generally raise your score and keeping afk players alive. this was abused already. old cities and old accounts have several down sides compared to new ones.

if the game balance depends on a lot of intangible things, like player skill and curses and leaders or biomes and races, it takes away control from players and adds unnecessary randomness. some random is ok, but too much makes certain actions good or bad. like it's a game balance issue that you have 60 years but you would need to use 30 to talk, set up leadership chain or talk out issues while you could build an entire city from resources that are ready. the game is too fast currently and certain actions give huge rewards on low effort or low rewards for huge effort. the game should reward good behaviour, teamplay and probably needs a better upkeep/value and progression system. like old cities should always be valuable. items with a lot of work should be valuable. working together could be forced but rewarded for doing so. but in certain categories freedom should be alllowed.

I accept that people just chitchat all game or sweat for the most part, used to be the latter, now I'm more balanced, I know my biases, sometimes I still just chill, and that's fine. But the game balance needs ownership and meritocracy, value skill somewhat, put a personal and a community pressure on you. for example you don't have to do much for a high population, no control about it, no effort needed. higher population scales with higher upkeep but same territory, higher resources of a fixed amount. so if most people don't create any positive impact, the edge cases people die to your neglicence or ignorance, it's not always hostility, lot of people just don't know any better. one way would be to change from a resource based economy to time/action/stamina based one. I doubt Jason adds stamina, most obvious improvement. Hungry work is similar. Jobs could have short timers or forced over time collection. So you are force to spend time on research or tasks, so there is a less difference in rushing, you would need to assign your kids to do some jobs, and that would always be helpful. There could be a free tier of resources that adds some value, like leafs, river water (maybe a distinction from current water system) and branches, etc, could form basic recipes that help with stamina or morale or any tangible bonus so peoples time is valuable, not all about resources. more of a use it or lose it. you got 10 iron per hour on level 1, if you don't gather by the end of it, it's lost. but you won't need 60 minutes to gather it, just the care/knowledge to get it. sure, later the other elements could be expanded like clay or wood industry and you would need to sacrifice part of your water or iron production to improve those. and you could have limitations in tech and rewards for reachign higher levels. it would auto balance itself, if you would need 1 level in one of them to be higher than others to use it for upgrades. if the upkeep is higher, like food is needed to live, stamina is needed to work, then some foods replenish more stamina, food can decay, etc. then players would need to cooperate to increase production, survive, help each other, I'm not talking about sweaty numbers, but like spend 20 minutes of your life doing stuff if you want to have some chill time in the rest of 40, or do something useful every 5 min then talk all you want. currently a lot of people fail on this.

the other issue is sharing which sounds nice on paper. but forced sharing just means that everyone enjoys your labout and everyone can have demands on anything. but if you don't even keep your own share of the social contract, you can be a burden on the society.
creating items should be rewarded in some way. ownership could be tracked. sharing could be an option but not theonly option. now it could be limitations like you can't privatize a burdock. but if I made a steel tool, a second shovel, by doing every step, collecting the iron, the branch, the steps to make the tool, I should be able to forbid the usage of it (moving it could be possible with certain limitations). And partial ownership should also be tracked somehow or automaticlaly rewarded. So everything should have a cost and a value. I dig up a burdock using 5 stamina and I gian x tokens, then if you choose to eat it, you get -5. At least the last interactions should count, but the recipe system is a bit weird, as some free resources still take effort, actions take effort and knowledge and some others don't. some processes like making a fire are several steps but don't provide a tangible reward. So there are a lot of details.

you won't have a trade system without a basis for it, like currency and safe trade. one is a storage for currency/tokens. a way to share or trade with it safely, so it can't be stolen or scammed out. a way to trade for items you want preferably automatically and having needs and excess you would need to balance. for example you know how to make pies, and they decay in x time, but another city is starving. I honestly don't care about the process, a trading building would buy it and other cities could pay for it, you would get some of the share, if they return the plates to the market you get them back and they get some refund. tasks/quests for other players on preset values, like min/mid/high effort. you would offer currency who gathers x branhces or clay  to a certain spot. you would give some of your tokens that they can use for buying buffs/items. for example your skills and knowledge in making clothes are higher and you can do it quickly, you could have a business of providing clothes but the token need would make you require some payment, so you would provide your earned tokens for a simple task like someone feeding a lamb then they could get your clothes. is it complex? not that much? is it needed? I think yes cause all we got is word based agreements and some people don't honor it. There are weird situations where they see something completely different than me. Two things can be true. For example if I made oil in a ginger town, I know the location, I know the process and got no biome limit, I should be morally and logically right to take some of it. Now you could come with the roleplay opinion that each life is separate and you are no longer owed those items, you are different family. But usually I see the most stringy people hog resources for themselves when they didn't made it, and they are paranoid about you asking for it. But thensome are very generous with items they didn't make, like make an impression on a baby who just started by gifting a piece of clothing. I had some altercations about this, like they stole some rabbit furs then gave a backpack to a baby and got their loyalty, so if I complain I get targeted for it. Being too stringy won't help. Having 25 players you can expect you need more than 2 baskets and more than one round stone for example. Not touching others work and items should be obvious but it's surprising how many people feel entitled to things. So one issue is trust, too much or too little is an issue and I could trust most of the city if one person can just scam both of us. It's pretty crazy when they undo all your work because they want things differently but if you do that to them they would kill you for a single item.

so little words, so gay.

ah, yeah. I was born in Edd town to a newbie who ran away with a horse, like 4000 away from the ginger family, that's 100 tile per minute. she didn't even understood the bands, and wanted to do a fire under the road, and she had at least another girl later when crossed the road so I wasn't technically the last, maybe i just lived longer. And she bailed somewhere later, not sure where, I told her about the nearby ginger city, but I got no clue where she was. And I tried to explain to her but she had no patience for baby talk.

so you expected me to travel 4000 tiles in 26 minutes to keep a griefed family alive, cause now checking some logs they died to shot grizzly bear which is either incompetence or intentional. there isn't even a ginger city west of groot, and with the gen debuff starting from scratch is suicide.

I was in Groot and was like 32 when I had some time to talk, after I got a horse in Polynice, and wasn't even paved at that time, I stayed out of band to not take away your spawns. So you cursed me and let  Kailie Klimpson Gene score 27.77 Curse score 23 BOOK BABY HALL live in your city 3 lives without recognizing that you signed your death.

So not knowing the context you just cursed the last female of the line without ever meeting me. But you had no problem living with someone who has more lives in donkey than normal lives.

ANGELA NEVIL
8952057    13.14    female    -162938 / -257    Shot_Grizzly_Bear    2026-03-24 00:18:53

that's around when I cursed her and got cursed back 2 days later for not tolerating her bullshit. That's when Pearl family started and I took the 4th Eve to a town and built it up almost alone. See? There is some patterns, why some towns and families succed and why others don't. you proved my point.

And the other guy I was talking about was doing the paving, probably you have a reason why he is cursed out too. You should be really nice to people who do the paving cause any legit player who could keep your families you hold deer, are at least 2000 tiles away from you when they start griefing you, cause you harbor the actual assholes. good luck fixing them xD

when? where? how you even know it was me?

I don't remember any game where I was the last female and wasn't in my band for a prolonged time.

if you are so invested, you should check the discord.
the bot commands are public and not too extensive. but also answers your problems. for example you set a new fire and say bot fire, so he swaps on it. I don't really want to control each and everyone, I expect that some players will be useless toward the main tasks, and others do tasks that aren't really important for the current stage of the game. so the bot doing the tasks no one does is fine. feeding one person is not that big of a deal. that also answers your other concern. a player would also eat a food that's there if he is starving. bot actually eats whatever near fire, so you should drop a few carrot pies. his speed isnt extreme, I work at same speed if I try to do stuff and I'm on my main pc. he can also fetch berries in bowls if you set up a box with bowls in it. generally I would have popcorn and garlic in bowls near the babies. a few carrot or mutton pies. dump some soil near compost and have water in buckets, more than one if the farm is larger.
one fertile female and beans it's really an edge case. I blame the game for a feature that goes against it's initial goal. especially that I suggested it and was pretty obvious it has to have some sort of limitation. personal yum is more important than city wide variety, technically you should do one for each person in the city so like 12-20 per hour of each food like carnitas, eggs or beans. and your skilled players who cut trees or mine iron benefit more from yum than your female who didn't even reach 20 yum.

families die, but that also shoudnt be taken as granted. ever since I started playing, I enjoy  paving roads but can't keep up with the distance that families are placed. the biome rings were great but the bands are horrible. 400-600 minimum each family but often 1200 away and dies out too early, yesterday was 2000-0-2000 for 3 fams, even when we ran the paver ahead it didn't reach. if the gingers survve, others could just as well with pip bonus and free stuff taken to them. distance makes no sense. trading makes no sense. 804 tiles of playable area on an unlimited map makes no sense. it's like you using a big monitor with 10 pixels of a strip on it actually showing things. tldr I don't hate the bot tending fire and picking berries, tending bushes, aka the boring stuff. fembot was actually better than 80% of the playerbase for staying put and surviving. people cherry picking towns kills towns. jason fails to understand to reward things or give options to people who want options.

bots identify themselves from age 0 just say 'bot', it's not an ai language model, it's a simple command. also just follows and as for feeding when needed, too good of a baby? so he is net positive, and if you want just block him with a few branches or say 'bot stop' and he starves .

jason obfuscated absolute cords.
it's only relative cords to birth. or triangulating from a bell tower. since it's 2d and square based, it's always same angles, so apparently one bell enough.

there was a bug with graves and messages. basically, relative coords based on birth. I was using a coordinate graphing tool to put them as dots. stdout txt had them, copy paste generate. first it took me long time. +- -- etc. hard to wrap your head around while playing. but once graphed I was able to visit 4-5 towns in a life, bell runs without bells but closer, like 300-900 tiles only. we had fun doing it. jason patched the exploit.

I forgot who made it, In an excel map he generated color codes on biomes, then you found a 3-4 biome meeting point, wrote down from middle to clockwise like 1 grass 2 savanna 3 arctic etc. 9 number, find in excel table. 3-4 biome mix was quite unique, with new map not so much, also making the table was long time.

tutorial and donkey town was somewhat fixed. but yeah, on wondible map you can spot a biome shape or city if you roughly know it.

been like 6 months since I used the forum too
havent played a long while
there was a lot of updates nowadays, like last 2 months

tga, uncompressed and also the points are 90 degree turned sideways, no layers, need to flatten them, no messing with alpha channels too much, might ruin them
some things need the exact size, like 1mb for biome backgrounds, not sure why, they might turn out discolored ingame otherwise
Jason used Magickimick or whatever is the name, it's linux and free
I much rather preferred gimp2 for saving the files, since people modded other games (city skylinines?) they added the feature to save uncompressed, also the ordering of dots is the default one but the original tga format would be different elsewhere
you can use whatever format and picture editor for the making, just save it again in gimp2, I generally done PNG as it has the transparent parts just as tga, saving with gimp was easy if the sizes match, just drop the picture on top, delete bottom layer and 'export as'
there are additional tricks, like setting the text from 0 to 1 to make something transparent or non transparent, then it can go overlay instead of cutting off the overhanging parts. that was used with my original underwear sprites.

you are hope, the mobile game by dual decade, it's not free but quite cheap

but since it's android I got to emulate it
best performance you would get on  Fyde OS
but since their controls are so bad, the crafting is diagonal swipe, undressing reverse, and the lifting containers is up swipe, the best way to control is Bluestacks, or in my case MSI AppPlayer (minimalist blue stacks for MSI), it can recognize the advanced keyboard controls, it's based on pixels and screen size, so it can be wonky with small items but after a bit of messing around I found the right coordinates for items and 90% does what i want to do. only that each direction and creation combo would need a key so I limited myself to left right up and then drop (actually got some special drop actions but I don't use them often), take clothing, eat, chat.
also got some emote macros

I'm used to the swipes now and I rather swipe sometimes than to walk over it and lift with a key, but I find it quite annoying
working side to side makes me slower, like I can do 7-8 plates/iron with a fire, but that's fine.

flip your monitor

Jason doesn't understand how to reward people and why. His values all all over  the place. As you remember, the base game was mostly 'don't do this'. Like 90% of mechanics are about not doing things, even accidentally you can do permanent errors. I guess his childhood was rough. He is still weird tho, I get that he had so many rules he enjoys breaking them in certain areas but in his online persona he has kind of weird OCD.
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I don't think it makes any sense to write complex stuff when the outcomes aren't really different. And if they are, it might require meticulous management which might be annoying for some. I guess people would enjoy more mechanics when it's well done but not too many pointless modifiers for the same thing. Ohol is just food and heat, no hp, no stamina no nothing, and heat is kind of food too.
Same with iron and water, everything converts to it and they kind of convert to each other. That just makes it  a bad system since it's bottom and top level resource so the bottom changes the lategame (wasting water hits back later) and the top changes the bottom (too much high tech makes life too easy). It's as fun as turning the lights on and off.
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Well, technically you could calc the average insulation where walls count more than floors, then the average temperature would be the material of the house, the original biome(not sure on this) and the season combined. The heating up and cooling down could be a set value in perfect conditions.
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But the issue there is the management. Right now in OHOL you could make  a 1x5 room and stay on perfect temp WITH a fire. that's 5 sideway wallsx2, 2x1 vertical and 4 corners. too much material for such a small place. The bigger the room the less walls needed as central tiles don't need walls. And the shape that has the most central tiles is the square. So if it isn't square it's wasting materials, also some heat bonus. But the other issue is that needs a fire, and needs to tend to the fire. 15 firewood per hour, regardless of size.
And a fire outside is just 0.40 or something then what? it's still a good bonus with no effort. Also you stand still so quite hard to work and enjoy a bonus.
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That being said the only legit bonus I could imagine in a room is perfect temp without clothes. Upsides? work in a good environment regardless of outside weather conditions. Downside? limited space.
Now really who does want to micromanage the size and shape of the room and all those details for 0.1 heat? like you do a compost cycle and make a bit more pies and same deal.
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I think it should be a different way of thinking, instead of you making a bunch of plans and arrangements to make it perfect temp, it could be a central heating, like a chimney and a fireplace built in wall. This should be more effective than a normal fire, or last longer. Instead of fixed heat, it would be perfect  heat, but last less for bigger rooms. It could work with charcoal since that is 3 units, so can be measured better. So for example 6x6 rooms was Jasons plan. That is 36 tiles, so a firewood would last 6 minutes for 36 tiles, so 1 minute for 6 tiles. That's 50% better than a fire outside. So if a room is smaller you could heat it faster and last longer or if it's bigger, more charcoal would be needed. A firewood should also give 4 kindling (in yah a log can be split in 4 bricks then each can be cut into kindling). So 4 kindling is 4 charcoal, 12 piece for heating 36 tiles to 6 min. that's 1 piece 3 tiles for 6 min. You could fill up the fireplace and it would go for a while, creating perfect temp indoors.
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If other bonuses come to play there could be some good mechanics, not to heat, but to  make rooms useful.

would  be interesting if you could handle it as a group zone, not sure how performant would be with many.
could be just type A, B , C , D and the rulesets would be same for similar rooms. no reason to treat anything under 3x3 as a room. but no reason to make difference between 3x4 and 4x3 and 3x3+2 for example. But a 7x7 could give extra bonuses for  the extra material used. It was working in ONI, like a bed and a decoration object without any machine (lights maybe) makes it a bedroom, bedrooms gave sleep bonus, faster energy refill. OFC it's harder to give bonuses to rpg humans than controlled ai workers.
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Other reason to make rooms could be tech gates, like a machine only works indoors. Not sure if time based actions could be  good, I can see it work if it's not a do or die. Like spend 10 seconds near a table to earn a research point and at 10 you get a blueprint. It doesn't need to be everything a blueprint either just a branch of tech.
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once I had an idea, with stamina bar, you would have a permanent bar and a temporary. permanent would be your maximum, maybe it could be even trained, the more you use it the less it takes to spend. a boost option could help do jobs faster but exhaust you. boosting while exhausted would trim some of the top limit down then you would need healthcare/resting/comfort activities to fix. It could be 4 different colors. Green on top: usable stamina, yellow: exhaustion after doing activities too long, red: extensive exhaustion permanently damaging you stamina, and harder fixes. Then a grey part that's the difference of current and maximum. So for example you start on 30 stamina and each time you deplete it, you gain 1 stamina. it could go up to 100, but you could also block out your top limit by overworking yourself. So asking for help, resting would be not only RPG but reasonable strategic steps. Restoring yellow bar with some foods would give foods a different stat to improve. Red would be harder, maybe just heavy resting could remove the penaties occurred by overusing stamina.

Beds could refill stamina, but nobody likes to stand in place, so instead of you sleeping (too long, it could still be like 20-30 sec doing nothing), the bed would be 'charging up' and you visiting the bed would take the charge, like a battery transfer. One bed would belong to one person, you would need to claim for life just like a home marker. You could upgrade beds for better stats. It could also be a tent that you place somewhere then later upgrade, it could act as a personal stash too, holding private item that others can't touch.