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#1 2020-05-16 08:48:31

Dantox
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Registered: 2019-04-28
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super bad problem: default vanilla zoom.

We are pretty restricted as of right now, so can we at least have a good view on our village to have some awareness of what is happening?


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#2 2020-05-16 09:07:56

Whatever
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Registered: 2019-02-23
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Re: super bad problem: default vanilla zoom.

no

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#3 2020-05-16 09:12:20

Dantox
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Re: super bad problem: default vanilla zoom.

Whatever wrote:

no

pretty please?


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#4 2020-05-16 09:19:29

sigmen4020
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Registered: 2019-01-05
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Re: super bad problem: default vanilla zoom.

Dantox wrote:
Whatever wrote:

no

pretty please?

no


For the time being, I think we have enough content.

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#5 2020-05-16 09:31:23

miskas
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Registered: 2018-03-24
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Re: super bad problem: default vanilla zoom.

jason says that games looks bad zoomed out. Yes MAX Zoom Out looks bad but What about 1 tile zoom out?

1 tile zoom out I think would help to have a better view on surround area and the image quality doesn't deteriorate
increase of the east to west from 10 tiles to 12 tiles and the north to south from 6 to 8

I use zoom and most of the time I play on this scale 12*8 and it is all I need to be able to work my game through and do staff.
The wheel could be used to adjust the zoom if someones want to.

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#6 2020-05-16 14:07:54

Grim_Arbiter
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Registered: 2018-12-30
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Re: super bad problem: default vanilla zoom.

miskas wrote:

jason says that games looks bad zoomed out. Yes MAX Zoom Out looks bad but What about 1 tile zoom out?

1 tile zoom out I think would help to have a better view on surround area and the image quality doesn't deteriorate
increase of the east to west from 10 tiles to 12 tiles and the north to south from 6 to 8

I use zoom and most of the time I play on this scale 12*8 and it is all I need to be able to work my game through and do staff.
The wheel could be used to adjust the zoom if someones want to.

Yeah I pretty much do the same, just one step back.

Don't think it will ever change though.


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#7 2020-05-16 15:00:19

DestinyCall
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Registered: 2018-12-08
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Re: super bad problem: default vanilla zoom.

The default zoom level is horrible.     I can't play without zoom mod.

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#8 2020-05-16 15:07:35

Joseph Stalin
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Registered: 2018-04-16
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Re: super bad problem: default vanilla zoom.

i like the 1.5 zoom normally but the max zoom shouldnt be possible imo its too op, but its open source so cant stop mods so oh well

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#9 2020-05-16 15:26:43

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Registered: 2019-08-16
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Re: super bad problem: default vanilla zoom.

Yes, default zoom is horrible. I feel sorry for vanilla users.
Vanilla should have x1, x1.5 and x2 zoom, with mouse scroll.

Jason doesn't read forums lately, he won't see this topic.


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#10 2020-05-16 15:57:36

DestinyCall
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Re: super bad problem: default vanilla zoom.

Jason is aware of the problem.  He just doesn't consider it important enough to fix.   Also, the art was designed for max zoom and he doesn't like how it looks when scaled down.    When this issue gets brought up,  Jason will usually point out that OHOL looks best when streamed by vanilla users and he doesn't want to compromise that up-close look.

Notice that he doesn't provide any answer for people actually trying to play the game without the ability to see five tiles in any direction.

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#11 2020-05-16 16:10:29

Whatever
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Registered: 2019-02-23
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Re: super bad problem: default vanilla zoom.

not being able to zoom out is a restriction and restrictions are fun, every good game dev knows that

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#12 2020-05-16 16:39:15

DiscardedSlinky
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Registered: 2019-05-06
Posts: 687

Re: super bad problem: default vanilla zoom.

Vanilla makes me motion sick because the camera flips back and forth so much when you move left and right. I actually get sick trying to play it

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#13 2020-05-16 16:54:23

Spoonwood
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Registered: 2019-02-06
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Re: super bad problem: default vanilla zoom.

DestinyCall wrote:

Jason is aware of the problem.  He just doesn't consider it important enough to fix.   Also, the art was designed for max zoom and he doesn't like how it looks when scaled down.    When this issue gets brought up,  Jason will usually point out that OHOL looks best when streamed by vanilla users and he doesn't want to compromise that up-close look.

Notice that he doesn't provide any answer for people actually trying to play the game without the ability to see five tiles in any direction.

Using Awbz or Hetuw on streams looks awkward, because of people zooming in and out.  In other words, it's the change of size of the screen that makes things awkward.  Also, if it's *very* far zoomed out it doesn't look so good, because there's not enough detail on the stream.  1.5x probably would look find on stream, and if not 1.25x would look fine on stream.  I think someone mentioned this one of the last times this got brought up.


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