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Silanar

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Registered: 2019-06-24

Posts: 12

Iron Math

The Math is at the end of the post.
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So. I played 3 days on an empty server to learn on my own a diesel engine and all the stuff to get there + oil. (unlucky 7 pipes to brake the oil open or is that normal? idk i never done that before) i only mined one mine from scratch. after i had kerosine i had clearly 0 iron left. i done only to must have to my town so i havnt biuld many tools + i hadnt biuld newcommen well. The last 3 buckets for oil rig i filled with ponds because i didnt wanted to mine the secound mine atm. i made some hoes and axes and shovels.
the wiki says (not onetech) u can use a terry spot minimum of 20 uses. after thats its random if the spot get exhausted or not (5% chance).

so now the theoretical math;
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u get 6 kerosine from one krude oil. thats 6 used of diesel mine engine. every use cost one chisel (1 iron worth). per use u get 6 iron (- one for chisel so theoretical 5 iron). If we stick to the minimum 20 oil we would get 20*6 uses = 120 uses. so 120 * 5 (- 1 iron included for chisel) = 600 iron what u can theoretical get from a mine. In reallife we need oil for water to so in normal scenario we wouldnt get 600 iron + other towns need oil too so u havnt a whole terry spot for you alone. (unless you are a poor ginger town what dont care about the others ).

6*20 kerosine = 120 uses on mine
1 use = 6 iron (-1 chisel so 5 iron)
120* 5 = 600 iron

that could be more if the 5% wont trigger on the oil spot (if this is still the actuel case idk. havnt tryed it out. im happy that i finally learned all that stuff on my own )

whats your thoughts about that?
keep in mind that i done this on an empty server so i had full control of the iron the whole time.
on normal server that would never be happen like that and idk if a diesel mine ever exhaust but i dont think so. so yea. Oil is now the important and limited source. (5% chance seems still ok for me. we will live long as 4 towns with that.)

Silanar

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Registered: 2019-06-24

Posts: 12

Re: Iron Math

Sorry for my english. i havnt used translator and im not that good. im from germany. hope u all still understand what i written down <3

Elsayal

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Registered: 2018-11-04

Posts: 262

Re: Iron Math

Hi,

According to : https://onetech.info/2308-Oil-Pumpjack

The estimated use is 11. I don't know if it's correct.

Regarding the number of pipes needed to start it, it seems that you have 20% each time to hit oil, and 80% to fail. So in theory, it could be really long. Again, if we llok at onetech. I don't think that using wiki is relevant, since the game change quickly.

Cheers,

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Silanar

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Registered: 2019-06-24

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Re: Iron Math

hm. even with 11 its still 330 iron theoretical.
is 11 the max or the min with a chance to use more after that?

Elsayal

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Registered: 2018-11-04

Posts: 262

Re: Iron Math

11 is an estimated number:

onetech said :

Number of uses: 5
Chance to use: 40% (last use is 100%)

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So what I understand is that you have 40% each time to really use it (for the fourth first time).

So the min should be 5 (3% chance if i'm correct) the max is 999999999.

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"find"
"iron"

Silanar

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Registered: 2019-06-24

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Re: Iron Math

now i more confused then before xD
hm. maybe i thought the oil spot to powerful. 5 uses isnt that much. ok if its min and a 3% chance to exhaust (if i understand you right) then still its ok. i should try tomorrow how often i can
use my oil spot. i have one use with oil atm. i will write it down here then

Last edited by Silanar (2020-04-06 12:53:47)

Coconut Fruit

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Registered: 2019-08-16

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Re: Iron Math

https://onetech.info/2308-Oil-Pumpjack
Onetech is always up-to-date. And probably nobody updates wiki from a long time, so better not use it.

You should get 11 tanks of kerosene from one oil pumpjack on average. Most of it is usually spent for water. Also only gingers can make oil, they feed other families too with it, so one pumpjack isn't really that much.

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Silanar

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Registered: 2019-06-24

Posts: 12

Re: Iron Math

https://onetech.info/2308-Oil-Pumpjack
Also only gingers can make oil, they feed other families too with it, so one pumpjack isn't really that much.

thats why i sayed i done this on an empty server. in reallife my scenario would never happens.
ok. then i understand some people why they hate the update so much. maybe the oil needs a small buff or so to balance it with this new update.
but atm it still looks fine for  me. just need more oil

and thanks. i will stick to onetech then for now if the wiki is so outdated :S

Gogo

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Registered: 2019-10-11

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Re: Iron Math

One time I used oil pump to exhaustion in one life, yes it was 11 tanks of crude oil.

Silanar

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Registered: 2019-06-24

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Re: Iron Math

so 330 iron in a dream scenario
if we spread them for 4 town its 82,5 iron.
and we need some water so another half we have average 40 iron per town per pumpjack if 11 uses triggers and all is fair traded

Elsayal

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Registered: 2018-11-04

Posts: 262

Re: Iron Math

I think that the first thing to do when you first find a tar spot and run it is ... finding another tarr spot. IN this case, you will never run out of water or oil obviously.
On low pop server, it's quite easy. On normal game, you have to make maybe 2 or 3 map to it, to ensure that people will finally find it. And destroy the map as soon as the tarr spot is empty.

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"find"
"iron"

Silanar

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Registered: 2019-06-24

Posts: 12

Re: Iron Math

i will dead in the time the spot runs out. so other people need to do it but yea. would be a think.
sometimes i have to much to do and so less time for all that stuff find terry, gather it , spread it to the towns, be the hero.