What Problems Do You Encounter When Trying to "Do It For the Kids"?

Spoonwood · 2019-06-02 14:56:27

When/if you're trying to play for the sake of your children, what problems do you encounter?

What prevents you from doing so?

What sorts of issues do you have in trying to keep a town alive so that people can live there while also trying to get children to live or come into existence?

Do certain in game projects (e. g. making a diesel engine or getting iron for a diesel engine) make it more difficult for you to consider playing for the sake of your children?

Does playing for the sake of your children conflict with what you want to get out of your play experience? If so, why so? How does that conflict arise?

Dodge · 2019-06-02 15:07:47

Yeah kids pop out when you're out of town because of the area ban.

Since when you're out of town is when you dont want kids i usually dont take care of them since they can just "get reborn" especially when i'm on a horse.

Area ban was used to prevent having multiple lineages in one town and everyone spawning there, but since we have war swords now it's not an issue anymore

So ban should be back to lineage and not area.

RodneyC86 · 2019-06-02 15:10:17

Mainly only being cooped up inside the town. Something about plooping out a child and leaving it for dead in the wilderness feels viscerally wrong to me.

I also like exploring - so I am heavily inclined to like playing as a male

lychee · 2019-06-02 15:14:23

Because there's really no real reason/stake to play for your "kids".

OHOL is a game in the end, and the primary objective of each player is to have fun (however each individual player defines it).

Consequently, some fraction of players consider it more fun to do certain game projects (e.g. build a house) than raise kids.

Some fraction of players are the opposite and they really enjoy kids.

A good portion of players play for the longevity of their settlement ("wanting to leave their mark on the world") -- which can translate into a desire of having girls -- but this is more about having a high frequency of kids more so than treasuring each child deeply and equivalently. In most circumstances, most players don't care if it's their own kid versus someone else's kid, as long as there are girls to continue the settlement.

In OHOL, the game mechanic simulates "caring for kids", but that feeling isn't actually the same as it is on Earth.

RodneyC86 · 2019-06-02 15:20:20

lychee wrote:

Because there's really no real reason/stake to play for your "kids".
OHOL is a game in the end, and the primary objective of each player is to have fun (however each individual player defines it).
Consequently, some fraction of players consider it more fun to do certain game projects (e.g. build a house) than raise kids.
Some fraction of players are the opposite and they really enjoy kids.
A good portion of players play for the longevity of their settlement ("wanting to leave their mark on the world") -- which can translate into a desire of having girls -- but this is more about having a high frequency of kids more so than treasuring each child deeply and equivalently. In most circumstances, most players don't care if it's their own kid versus someone else's kid, as long as there are girls to continue the settlement.
In OHOL, the game mechanic simulates "caring for kids", but that feeling isn't actually the same as it is on Earth.

i keep saying, life is cheap in OHOL, one hour is too fleeting. A typical movie is longer than that.

Also, raising kids become samey

"Hi bb"
"You are ***"

"F *uweh*"

*Pick up bb
*Stoke the fire

*baby turns 3

"GL BB"
"TY"

99 percent of parents and children do this. If you are lucky, might run into parent who bother to ask are you new? (I try to remember i swear)
Throw in maybe clothing your baby, but lately i see the trend that people dont clothe their babies anymore, whats up with that???!!!

TLDR: parenting is boring

EDIT: before anyone gets triggered, parenting in OHOL is boring

Last edited by RodneyC86 (2019-06-02 15:20:38)

Spoonwood · 2019-06-02 15:20:22

Dodge wrote:

Yeah kids pop out when you're out of town because of the area ban.
Since when you're out of town is when you dont want kids i usually dont take care of them since they can just "get reborn" especially when i'm on a horse.

Since we're talking about bs2 OHOL, I don't follow. I mean, why do you think that the child will get reborn to you, since the fertility queue can change at any point in time or the child can just not play with you after that and might recognize that you abandoned him/her?

Edit: These questions have the premise that you are doing it for the kids. What you describe there though makes me question that you play for the kids in such a situation. Could be me. I've always felt that fertile women on a horsecart in this game irresponsible on the main servers before the bigserver, and on the bigserver once it existed.

Last edited by Spoonwood (2019-06-02 15:27:19)

Spoonwood · 2019-06-02 15:29:39

RodneyC86 wrote:

lychee wrote:
Because there's really no real reason/stake to play for your "kids".
OHOL is a game in the end, and the primary objective of each player is to have fun (however each individual player defines it).
Consequently, some fraction of players consider it more fun to do certain game projects (e.g. build a house) than raise kids.
Some fraction of players are the opposite and they really enjoy kids.
A good portion of players play for the longevity of their settlement ("wanting to leave their mark on the world") -- which can translate into a desire of having girls -- but this is more about having a high frequency of kids more so than treasuring each child deeply and equivalently. In most circumstances, most players don't care if it's their own kid versus someone else's kid, as long as there are girls to continue the settlement.
In OHOL, the game mechanic simulates "caring for kids", but that feeling isn't actually the same as it is on Earth.
i keep saying, life is cheap in OHOL, one hour is too fleeting. A typical movie is longer than that.
Also, raising kids become samey
"Hi bb"
"You are ***"
"F *uweh*"
*Pick up bb
*Stoke the fire
*baby turns 3
"GL BB"
"TY"
99 percent of parents and children do this. If you are lucky, might run into parent who bother to ask are you new? (I try to remember i swear)
Throw in maybe clothing your baby, but lately i see the trend that people dont clothe their babies anymore, whats up with that???!!!
TLDR: parenting is boring
EDIT: before anyone gets triggered, parenting in OHOL is boring

Do you think that part of the boredom arises from that the child only has so many letter than he or she can type?

RodneyC86 · 2019-06-02 15:31:56

Spoonwood wrote:

RodneyC86 wrote:
lychee wrote:
Because there's really no real reason/stake to play for your "kids".
OHOL is a game in the end, and the primary objective of each player is to have fun (however each individual player defines it).
Consequently, some fraction of players consider it more fun to do certain game projects (e.g. build a house) than raise kids.
Some fraction of players are the opposite and they really enjoy kids.
A good portion of players play for the longevity of their settlement ("wanting to leave their mark on the world") -- which can translate into a desire of having girls -- but this is more about having a high frequency of kids more so than treasuring each child deeply and equivalently. In most circumstances, most players don't care if it's their own kid versus someone else's kid, as long as there are girls to continue the settlement.
In OHOL, the game mechanic simulates "caring for kids", but that feeling isn't actually the same as it is on Earth.
i keep saying, life is cheap in OHOL, one hour is too fleeting. A typical movie is longer than that.
Also, raising kids become samey
"Hi bb"
"You are ***"
"F *uweh*"
*Pick up bb
*Stoke the fire
*baby turns 3
"GL BB"
"TY"
99 percent of parents and children do this. If you are lucky, might run into parent who bother to ask are you new? (I try to remember i swear)
Throw in maybe clothing your baby, but lately i see the trend that people dont clothe their babies anymore, whats up with that???!!!
TLDR: parenting is boring
EDIT: before anyone gets triggered, parenting in OHOL is boring
Do you think that part of the boredom arises from that the child only has so many letter than he or she can type?

No, allowing them to type too much would probably kill it for me. I get that it would help new players since then they can ask questions easier. But then you have the annoying trolls.
I am already stressed being cooped in my own village, last thing I need is a baby that behaves like Stewie from Family Guy

Dodge · 2019-06-02 15:59:37

@Spoonwood Only the OG concept of "One Hour One Life" will make most of us care about kids but imo the game is not ready for that yet.

Atm if you die you can just "get reborn" immediatly so there is no meaning to care about kids, who cares if the baby dies since he can get reborn.

Also the map being infinite really diminishes the importance of making civilisations and lineages.

And why care about a lineage specifically?

If there was a fixed limited number of eve's per ammount of time and lineages dying meant nobody could play the game until the next Eve, then the importance of raising kids would have a totally different meaning.

Players would care about every baby like it's something precious because they would know that with only one life per hour and a limited number of Eve's if you dont take care of that baby it could mean the end of all civilizations on the server.

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RodneyC86 · 2019-06-02 16:06:11

Dodge wrote:

@Spoonwood Only the OG concept of "One Hour One Life" will make most of us care about kids but imo the game is not ready for that yet.
Atm if you die you can just "get reborn" immediatly so there is no meaning to care about kids, who cares if the baby dies since he can get reborn.
Also the map being infinite really diminishes the importance of making civilisations and lineages.
And why care about a lineage specifically?
If there was a fixed limited number of eve's per ammount of time and lineages dying meant nobody could play the game until the next Eve, then the importance of raising kids would have a totally different meaning.
Players would care about every baby like it's something precious because they would know that with only one life per hour and a limited number of Eve's if you dont take care of that baby it could mean the end of all civilizations on the server.

This makes everything sound really dire though, but that's what drives human civilization forward.

Wish I have the resourcen, time and expertise to run a server

Spoonwood · 2019-06-02 16:12:27

Dodge wrote:

@Spoonwood Only the OG concept of "One Hour One Life" will make most of us care about kids but imo the game is not ready for that yet.

What is the OG concept?

Dodge · 2019-06-02 16:23:01

Spoonwood wrote:

Dodge wrote:
@Spoonwood Only the OG concept of "One Hour One Life" will make most of us care about kids but imo the game is not ready for that yet.
What is the OG concept?

It's in the name of the game "One Hour One Life", one life per hour.

Currently we have multiple lives per hour which makes each life trivial since you can just get reborn immediatly after dying.

Lineages dying means nothing as there is no risk at all involved, so keeping a lineage going or taking care of kids is just a courtesy done to other players.

RodneyC86 · 2019-06-02 16:26:42

Dodge wrote:

Spoonwood wrote:
Dodge wrote:
@Spoonwood Only the OG concept of "One Hour One Life" will make most of us care about kids but imo the game is not ready for that yet.
What is the OG concept?
It's in the name of the game "One Hour One Life", one life per hour.
Currently we have multiple lives per hour which makes each life trivial since you can just get reborn immediatly after dying.
Lineages dying means nothing as there is no risk at all involved, so keeping a lineage going or taking care of kids is just a courtesy done to other players.

I faintly remembered reading something about this years ago, and I told myself I would try this game later - but I promptly forgot about it. And only discovered this game now.
If memory serves me right, if you die, you really do get locked out of the game and have to wait realtime to get another life.

Baker · 2019-06-03 10:29:20

Mostly the problem is not actually caring about babies most of the time, You don't really have a reason to unless you're the last female. In a big city you have like 10 other females all popping out babies just like you, most of which suicide, die early, even the ones who live are rarely useful. You don't usually interact much with your kids after they grow up.

About twenty minutes later you see a daughter you don't remember having feeding your grandkids who are secretly hoping to get your clothes.

TL;DR I would care about them if their weren't so many of them.

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