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#1 2020-12-14 19:11:04

The_Anabaptist
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Registered: 2018-11-14
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How do you define civilization?

a multiplayer survival game of parenting
and civilization building

Too often we define this as completing the tech tree, maximizing our yum, or some other mechanic.

If you were to Eve in your next life, what words of wisdom would you impart to your kids (and instruct them to pass onto their kids, etc) to promote a unique tribal identity?  Not necessarily game play tips like "don't just eat berries", rather something waxing more philosophical in nature that will set your tribe's culture apart from the rest.  (hopefully for the better, and not the worse)

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#2 2020-12-14 19:15:36

DestinyCall
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Registered: 2018-12-08
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Re: How do you define civilization?

Bears are our friends.   Live in peace with our ursine brothers.   

Just be careful.   They love to hug, but do not know their own strength.

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#3 2020-12-14 20:46:31

schmloo
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Registered: 2019-06-15
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Re: How do you define civilization?

I would classify civilisation in this game, very simply, as a group of people surviving in one spot. So as soon as the first well is up, the family can be classed as a proper civilisation, but a settled Eve can be classed as the very start of a civilisation, and therefore the period of time living off of wild food can be too. It can probably be said that interacting with all the other different families makes them part of the connections that make up the server-wide civilisation.

Everything is doomed, so there isn’t really much of an end goal to define success, but what does define success depends on how well this group of people stave off drought, and thus starvation. Water stored by this collective is basically the timer of a civilisation’s lifespan, and therefore efficiency and resource management is key. Anything you do to intentionally waste water, whether it’s directly wasting it, not eating yum foods as much as possible, or telling newer players bad practice so that they unknowingly waste water (and end up passing down bad practice as a result), is going against the idea of building civilisation. There’s not much variation you can offer besides different ways buildings look, farm layout and smithy setup for this reason, since different ways of doing things means varying efficiency of water usage.

Which is why shucked corn is clearly the best food eaten raw.
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TL;DR I class civilisation by a family’s ability to survive in one spot, and to take it a step higher, the ability for all three useful families to survive in one relative spot.

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#4 2020-12-19 10:28:11

NoTruePunk
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Registered: 2019-01-25
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Re: How do you define civilization?

A civ is a unique group of people that stand out as having a singular cultural and historical background, going back in time and being presently isolated or separate from other unique groups.

In real life there's just one civilization now, due to globalization. But in the past there have been many, and unless we all go extinct simultaneously there will probably be more civilizations in the future.

In OHOL a civ doesn't develop until it has established itself somewhat. If there are 3-4 families living long term together up to an average generation of around 50 then I'd call that a civilization. That's enough time to stop worrying about basic survival and develop your own village writing, a village tradition or a specific infrastructure exclusive among the grouping.

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#5 2020-12-19 10:40:55

Morti
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Re: How do you define civilization?

Imagine when people went from before writing, before history, to a life with records from the past?
Imagine before we had stories, or spoke.

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#6 2020-12-19 13:03:26

Morti
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Re: How do you define civilization?

I was working on a more long winded response, but who wants to read all that?
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#7 2020-12-19 13:06:50

Morti
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Re: How do you define civilization?

Note the scroll bar in that text doc does not have travel.
But in my head, that post would have been about 4 times longer, maybe more, with pictures and blackjack and hookers.

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