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I disagree on this idea. The /die should go:

A Race > /die > B Race > /die > C Race > /die > D Race > /die > DONKEY TOWN with a hard lock for the next 10 minutes.

You get a chance to play on any family you want as long as you are not currently locked out for being a cursed.

Jason reply is nonsense, people don´t mass /die to eve Jason, people mass /die to go into a specific race and they are not bright enough to realize someone has them locked out because of the cursing mechanic. Since we have 24 tokens (a ridiculous number tbh) you get like 12/20 tries for free.

Individually if I had to classify the game in a scale from 1-5 for how hard it can be i´d say we are at 3.

Key problems:
- Players got used to free food in the wilds. Forever. It didn´t matter how bad the situation was in town, you could just run to a green patch to get berries. Same but a little more elaborated with eggs. Basically the full life diet for free if you moved around a bit.

- Players got used to the same diet. Forever. It didn´t matter where, just plant those damn carrots and green lollipops and you all good. Sometimes we had so many dead rabbits that we rather roast them to get rid of the clutter. Nowdays you better be making a pie with it.

- Players got used to "teching up" as fast as you can. I don´t have the complete details, but at least 2 towns where starting engines about 6 hours after server reset. With no oil, just for the heck of it.

- Players got used to feeding all their babies. That made the population jump too high at generations 3/4. With infinite free food that didn´t matter. Now it means your tribe jumps from 3/6 people to 9/18 in a heartbeat. And it is all over because it soons starts to make the water scarce.

- Players got used to put their own interests before the survival of the tribe. Afterall with free food you can start that nice building project and someone else will farm for you.  And it is ok if you use four rabbits furs for you insulation instead of making a backpack for someone else, afterall everyone can catch his or her own rabbits. If you have so much water, may as well start making some fancy tech. Or even better, you can start a milkweed farm in town instead of looking for milkweed fifty tiles away. Want a nice suit to look cool? No problem! just 12 berry/carrot bowls, you can feed the shorn sheep and let the poop decay, we have too much mutton anyways.

As you can see it is all about adapting. Make better choices. Prepare good food in advance. Slow down the tech climb, you don´t even need metal to farm/hunt/bake and support a small tribe of 4/6 people. Learn to use flash fire instead of playing depending on the fastest axe in the game at 7 or so minutes. Hold down the tech because after the full metal set you don´t need the newcomen so fast, don´t get greedy on the iron. Stablish a solid cooked food base to support your tribe: pies/stew/bread/mutton/rabbits/milk/turkey/carnitas. Limit the niche veggies to a minimum (tomato, onion, pepper), control the carrots and berries and keep pumping those buckets full of milk and the corn peeled. Make smart and compartimented buildings for bakery and baby room, make yards for smith.

I believe a smart player can produce enough food to support about 8 players in total along his or her full life in terms of pipe consumption on average conditions (minimum clothing like hat and rabbit pants). Even if the  7 players standstill  and do nothing at all with no fire. Even with the full 0.5 foodscale.
The only requirements for the players are to eat good food, don´t waste water and not to block the working player.

I think you are all wrong. The problem is the hard communication system between players. It is a general consensus for every player that has been in the game for more than two months that berries and carrots are part of the bottom of the food scale for the players. And yet we fail to communicate that simple fact to a new player in a full lifetime.

I have started a new trend for my new players as mom. I dress them but I refuse to teach them any craft at all. Nothing. Instead I take them to the farm and tell them everyone the same speech: "Listen I can´t teach you right now, the game is complicated. You can take your time to learn everything on your own. BUT you can´t eat berries and carrot from the farm. I don´t care if you stay still in the fire for all life or if you make mistakes or anything. You can do whatever you want, as long as you eat good food. Berry and carrot are bad food because they are sheep food. This (picking a bowl for a stew or broth) is good food. This we eat. -Then to the kitchen. Same speech. Again. And show them pies.- Good luck and have fun."

Relax, I agree with most of you say. However, acting scummy or not as a good person doesn´t mean you are not right. I repeat: I don´t have the full knowledge in this situation to justify the legality of the problem.

This is not about how much did someone play in a time lapse. The game offers extended lifetime access to the servers and that is being put to question.

The shoe analogy doesn´t work because this shoe is not getting less value out of it by someone using it. If the game was so good that the playerbase started growing and the accounts started going up in value one could even say that by playing the game and helping find loopholes Toxic increased the value of his subscriptions.

I am not going to keep this exchange for sake of sanity, I don´t know the details. All I´m saying is:

It´s not so straighforward as saying "this is right or wrong".

I played there today and since fishing is not my thing I made that awesome four cow milk factory with some boards. I recycled some stuff from the main town. It is a pretty big noobtrap atm, there is literally no food or buckets there, people go there to die.

I got a horse and upgraded with some tires, collected water and farmed some basics. After some mild exploring around went to the browns and made a map, they were just starting, gifted them a knife and turkey. Blacks are just too far away atm and I can´t find whites. Next time there I could go east and get some iron and steel but I think it is not even worth it, there is still a shallow well south.

Unless it gets severely raided that outpost can survive forever.

The game has already turned into mass farming and making food, and big cities will never die for lack of resources at this rate anyways.

Nobody cares about oil because 1 decent player can secure a water supply for the whole server that lasts 2 hours.

If we want a decent challenge for the survival of the fittest type of game we need a factor scale of 0.25 or 0.2. As Leonard says, veterans will figure this out in two days and the game will have exaclty zero change. Even with the iron nerf and hungry work at least 2 towns were making engines 6 hours after reset.

Goodbye civilization building, game name should be "one hour, make food".

@Elsayal:
The thing is, I´ve played a few times with Spoon and I know he loved the game at some point. And I understand his repeated complains can be seen as toxic, but at the same time I´ve seen many people come and go with expectations just to get ignored at every step of the way. I think there is no real solution here.

They lasted two gens, her kid went afk. You should have more trust.

So 6 is because...? Why no 8 from the start *if you are going to feed the sheep twice*?
You are terrible at concealing Dodge. Bye.

Clearly I wouldn´t change sheep at all Dodge, and while im open when I say this is a nerf you hide it behind a "fix" the same as Pein.
You can lol all you want, we all know who the ones pushing for more restrictions and resource scarcity are. At the very least be open about it, you both want mutton and fleece to cost more and all the rest is just bullshit around.

So yeah, sheep doesn´t need a change at all, if poo is a problem make it decay faster if not in a bucket. Dead lamb a problem? Just make it decay faster.

Man your idea is even worst than Peins, you want to pay double sheep food per new sheep. Thats not only double cost of meat but double cost of fleece too.

You guys are hard pushing all the worst nerfs, they have zero impact in the game dynamic except making it harder, may as well double the hunger rate if you want to push this kind of nerfs. They are useless because they just create scarcity, they don´t influence the relationship between players at all.

This has been proven not working as intended by several players including me. If you spam /die repeteadly you wil be born to the same player eventually, even more than 2 times on different players and the same town.