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testo wrote:

You bought a product and you got your product: access to his servers. The game and code are completely free.

Ok, Jason.

It's interesting how after such a long time of running his game into the ground, some people literally don't care enough anymore to pretend it was sold as "a multiplayer game of parenting and civilization building".

I know your argument wasn't meant as a response to whether the game is pure survival or what it was advertised as anymore, but I mean you have to realize you're literally arguing for the fact that the game isn't even improving at this point, regardless of the type of game its become...

I have come to give my opinion. Please listen people. My opinion is very important and if you disagree with it you are TOXIC. VERY UNFRIENDLY AND UNWELCOMING.

fucking lmao

When did this turn into a public opinion thread? I don't remember asking who likes me and who doesn't. I don't care what you think, and you don't care what I think. Why even bother?

This thread was about a guy lying about why he was killed and cursed and I corrected him with proof. I dislike people lying in their stories to make themselves look better, especially when they're a hypocrite and got an innocent person 4 curses BUT THEN complains about being mass cursed themselves. Fucking hypocrite.

Fuck that, fuck this thread. I'm actually done this time. If you want to shit talk me come in the discord and I'll be glad to send you clown emojis. Not about to take shit from a guy who spammed waystones all over server 7 like a monkey when they couldn't be removed.

Testo:

You said:

Testo wrote:

I don´t want to play as Eve on BS2, I lose too many points for the gene score and thus toolslots

So is the problem playing as an Eve *per se*, or that you're concerned that you'll have so many children who will die young, that your score will get negatively affected?

If there were some limitation on the number of children you could have as an Eve would you act the same way?

Maybe the underlying problem is the problem of too many players starting as babies.

Yeah, it would be great to see a general overhaul of the wild animals to make them smarter and more interesting.    Wolves and boars run over you by accident.   They do not even hunt like bears.   The only reason why any of the animals are a serious threat is because a lot of the player-base uses the vanilla client, so they can't zoom out to see an off-screen boar.

Jojigirl wrote:

Property fences are a part of the game, if someone chooses to use them, then they should not get cursed for it.. They paid for the game just the same and should be able to make fences if they choose to do so.

Yeah, that's not a valid argument.    Paying for server access does not mean you are free to follow all of your impulses. 
You do not have a "right" to build property fences in this game any more than you have a "right" to kill all the sheep if you feel like stabbing something.    Just because Jason added a scrap box that reduces an engine to a bunch of raw iron, that doesn't mean it is okay to scrap the village's only engine or that you don't deserve to be cursed for doing so.     Just because you CAN do something does not mean you SHOULD do something.  Or that doing that action is going to be socially acceptable to other villagers.   

Jason put property fences into the game, but he also put the curse system in the game (and killing) so we could self-police.   If enough people consider property-ownership counterproductive behavior, it is completely valid within the rules of the game to deter other players from constructing fences by whatever means are available.    Keep in mind that the only way to "revoke" gate ownership from a player who is abusing property fencing is to kill them.  But posse-killing is pretty hard to coordinate and generally not worth the effort unless the village is under direct threat.  Using curses to deter property ownership is a less-direct but much easier approach, since it teaches people to not build fences in the middle of town in future lives and it moves the fence-builders to other villages where they won't be a problem for you if they should persist in making private property.   

In my experience, property fence builders are either new players who do not understand why nobody builds property fences or griefers who want to use property fences for nefarious purposes.    In rare cases, they are more experienced players who plan on using property fences for selfish or anti-social reasons, like storing material for a personal project or keeping other people away from them while they work.    In most cases, the property fences are not directly benefiting the village and in many cases, they can be directly harmful, by locking away valuable resources and blocking free movement.   Even if the person who stored stuff inside the fence is planning on using it eventually, there is no guarantee that he will finish the task in a timely manner and, in the meantime, the gate is preventing other people from accessing the tools or resources he has sequestered for personal use.  In a small village with limited resources, time is a precious commodity and selfish behavior can be deadly.  Also, removing a property fence from a badly chosen location is really annoying, harder than slowing berry-patch creep.  And even when the original builder had good intentions, that does not mean that future owners will use the gate responsibly.   If  you wait to see what a person is planning to do with his property fence or how responsible he is, then it is too late to do much about it and the village will be stuck with a big ugly property-fenced area for hours.

I would equate property fence construction with dog breeding or airplane building.    These activities are almost NEVER done anymore, because the majority of experienced players understand that they are not beneficial and serve no valid purpose for the village.    Just like with property fencing, when you see someone working on dog-breeding, you can expect that they are either a new player who just realized that dogs were a part of OHOL and they are super excited to have a beagle puppy ... or they are a more experienced player who knows that dogs are broken and they are planning on breeding some pitbulls to cause trouble for the rest of the town.    Likewise, there are occasionally people who build cars or planes.   But in the current game state, doing so is almost never justified.   It's just a really convoluted way to lose an engine.

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Now, just to clarify, I do not curse people for making property fences or owning property gates.  I agree that curses should be reserved for actual griefing, rather than directed at anyone who does something you don't like.   If I cursed everyone who played sub-optimally, I would never have any curses available for when I encountered a real threat.   Plus, I don't like to curse or kill people unless it is absolutely necessary.  It is a powerful action and should be reserved for people who really deserve to be punished for bad behavior.   

My preferred approach when I see something I don't like is to either ignore it or try to talk it out.   That can be challenging in OHOL due to text limits, but it isn't impossible and it is a better approach if you are hoping to change someone's mind.

testo wrote:

I understand your point schmloo. I even agree that many times the curse system is not being used to curse griefers or people acting against a town. However this curse system as bad as you may see it at least does stop people from going full retartds over everyone else.

It stops those people, you’re right, and that’s the relieving positive side of it. Unfortunately, the negative side which has a greater impact is that it sacrifices people who don’t deserve to be in dt; those are possibly people who have a positive impact on the town, and were sent there over a misunderstanding with a (or several) touchy person(s). Not the best trade off, in all honesty. Since I haven’t played for a bit until more recently, I have no clue what the finer details of the system are, but something, somewhere is very wrong, and too strict.

xaxaxa he didnt cursed me Mr.Gold and I tried to talk him a little. Talking is not always enough Destiny some of them are deliberately eating the same food over and over. But I agree with you, I always ask my kids if they know about yum and I use the 3 minute raisin time to explain them about Yumming and teach them how to make milk and yum it through Pouch.

To continue with my Cultural war experiences.
I Spawn again in this town after some hours, they had kept the Corn Farm
....the berries had spread sideways now though counting 32 in numbers -_-
I emptied the nine on the left, (always secured the bowls with carrots) and tried to fence them off to die peacefully but the fence had 1 little hole and after some minutes guess what. A Berry Spreader went all the way around to soil them and water them -_- YOU HAVE ALREADY 20+ berries god damn!

Sometimes, Testo, you can't make an omelet without breaking some eggs.
So I decided that These people need the shovel!
Next life I am starting a cult, The only berries in the town will be fenced! :}
The Culture war has started!