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testo wrote:

I am of a similar opinion. One thing is to defend everyones right to play as they want (that includes griefing). Completely different is to endorse it by means social validation, by giving them extra power or by making them a counterpart to the game.

Really well said. Now we have people coordinating greifing in the forum as well it's really discouraging. I don't really care to battle greifers. I'm not here for that.

Okay, I'm pushing out a fix for this.

Now a mother's birth cool-down instantly resets when a baby dies of any cause.

Thus, if there's room for you in the world as a baby, it's impossible to be Eve through any kind of baby death.  I hope.

This means that the new 8-hour-no-look map clearing change will also go live early.

Morti wrote:

Dodge wrote:

There is holes in that story

There are indeed.

BarnabyJones wrote:

I simply go to the middle of the town and ask if there are any skewers,

Here is the biggest one.

BarnabyJones wrote:

and immediately someone tells me to go find some (I can't leave and there are none within the gates) and that I'm a lazy fuck.

Barnaby, I told you to try north. And you remember your response? You do. Don't lie. You began to insult me.

I'm going to stop you right there. I think you hastily said check North and then IMMEDIATELY started calling me lazy and to find some myself and getting everyone riled up (again, despite not being able to get out of town anyway). If all you had said was "Check North" there would have been no reason for me to be upset about anything, I don't get upset over someone telling me to check in a certain direction. It's what you immediately started saying afterwards, and you're conveniently ignoring that you did, and blame me instead.

Morti wrote:

And no one else told you to fuck off, just me, because you insulted me for not telling you exactly where you could find saplings.

That is not true, there were at least 3 others also joining in. It was the last game I played so I remember clearly.

Morti wrote:

We had a small grassland south, that I had fully explored, and a large grassland north, which I had not fully explored. I was working, and I politely responded to you, and in return, you flipped and started insulting me for what? For not telling you exactly where you could find skewers? I was working nonstop that life, as I often am. I stay busy and mind my own business, that's what keeps towns alive; work. You said you were looking for skewers, and I didn't know where to find them, but I knew that, so I wasn't about to stop and have a chat with you about why one thing was not nearby. If I want something, I get it. If I really want it, I might run for 10 years, just to find it, only two run back home for ten years.

I was not an elitist jerk to you until after you began to follow me and insult me.

I simply told you to try looking north.

And there were no gates on the north and south fences, I had long since removed the rope after they had decayed. I turned that rope into more useful things. The gates were not there and they hadn't been for quite some time.

I wish I knew how to record games because you DID NOT RESPOND POLITELY. That's a huge load of bullshit. You immediately attacked me and called me lazy. I didn't know about the gates decaying because when I had checked earlier they were being built. You are trying to make this look like you were so nice to me and just simply told me to check North. Dude, you're delusional. You were immediately rude and then started insulting me, questioning my contributions and other people then joined in.

Morti wrote:

And I didn't tell you to go play Apex Legends, lol, I said Overwatch, not that it really matters.

Middle school behavior regardless.

I'm not apologizing as I did not lie about anything, and again, I do not plan on playing this game anymore so why would I apologize to a toxic player that made me feel the most unwelcome out of anyone else in the game and was nasty for absolutely no reason other than I'm new and wasn't elite. I don't remember starving, but it's possible because I was so busy trying to defend myself, I thought I had been killed since I died so abruptly. When I died there were several people saying nasty things to me, all that you started.

I don't think pine walls were ever used by anyone, ever, milkweed or not!

The thing is, I've made those pine panels in real life, and it's a ton of work.

There's an aspect of this game that is a "real maker aesthetic," and I've kept that going for most things.  Track kits are a recent exception, along with property fences.

Obviously, the real maker aesthetic is cool and unique (no other game has 25 steps to make a fire, and the same steps translate exactly to real-world fire-making).

But just as obviously, a realistic making aesthetic is long-term tedious when you want to get down to business and play the damn game.

So I'm torn on stuff like this.  Would be nice to make a stack of pine panels after making one, and set up structures throughout the village quickly.

Also, the "adobify" suggestion is a great one.

Maybe they could be very easy to move to make ad-hoc, temporary structures?

jasonrohrer wrote:

Even though players like being Eve, there's simply no room in the game for "more Eves" than there need to be.  If we have 10 Eves, and only one makes a viable village, the other ones who played Eve might as well have played solo on a higher-number server, right?  The only difference is that they had babies along the way, and roped them into what would inevitably be a failed project.

The original idea for the game was that Eve would be extremely rare.  She was player1 on the server, but that's it.

"Well, what happens when everyone dies out?"

Okay, well in that case, a new Eve is spawned to get things started again.

"What happens if there's only one available mother, and 10 people joining.  Will she get 10 babies?  That's insane"

Okay, in that case, we'll spawn more Eves to spread the load.

But you can see that even with these concessions to the original "one Eve" concept, we still really only want Eves in the game when they're really needed.

Also, if you like to Eve, just get born in a town and run away.  Anyone can play the starting-from-scratch game whenever they want (assuming that the land isn't stripped bare around town, which is another problem....)

If you're determined to quite literally never, EVER let players be able to eve, despite it being a popular playstyle that many people enjoy, then you need to give us the fucking ability to properly branch off of a family. We need more space.

I like being eve because it's a challenge, moreso than sitting in a functioning village adding to the already-large food stores and munching on pies. I like being able to start from scratch, build the first kiln, plant the first berries, and being completely on my own, with only my children to continue my legacy. I like seeing the foundations of something great, and coming on later to find that my family is still going! That the tiny eve camp bloomed into a city!

You just don't get the same effect anymore. Having to run for half my fertility just to find wild lands again is not enjoyable. Getting stuck with a surname that means nothing to me is not enjoyable. Being forced into already settled lands no matter how I spawn in, is not enjoyable.

Things stagnated very quickly. I'm already burnt out on being forced together in one small area when the map has easily the space and resources for hundreds, if not thousands, of settlements. I'm tired of seeing a town everywhere I look on bs2. I'm tired of being forced to play with strangers that just end up slaughtering my family a generation later.

Give us options that aren't /die /die /die.

Spoonwood wrote:

Booklat1 wrote:

I wish you'd been as cautious when adding fences, literally everyone here likes the change.

*ahem*

testo wrote:

Dislike the idea, this won't help food diversity as it stands and will force a nerf on food:

Berry in bowl, shuckle corn, pop corn, carrot, green beans, rabbit, +7 non mutton pies, stew, bean burrito hits 14 yum without wild food (berry, carrot, root, onion, cactus, banana +6). Note that you don´t even need iron for this, and the farming is pretty light.

Wich means you can basically live a life on one food chain if you have some clothing and you take a 10 min walk collecting stuff from outside the town.

This is too good to be true and there will be a nerf somewhere, better to get it clear from the start.

Testo I think correct in that such a change wouldn't help food diversity.

testo is also incorrect in saying fucking beans and raw corn are viable. it takes 6 people at high yums for it to be worth it, which is bloody unlikely. Math hasnt changed, raw food is awful and will always be, as it should. I've shown you this a hundred times spoon, even with yum, the benefits of raw foods are selfish.

carrots are the only viable option and only pre sheep since they're better as carrot pies/animal feed than eaten raw.

So the suggestion here is:

1.  Each player gets one Eve token every 24 hours.

2.  If there's ever a situation where there's no mother for you (all mothers on birth cooldown, all mothers too old, or you're banned from all lineages), you spend your Eve token to become an Eve.

3.  If there's a situation where there's no mother for you, and you have no Eve token, your request to join the server is denied.

(Or maybe there's some way to earn Eve tokens more than once per 24 hours).

So what happens if there are no suitable mothers left, and every active player has no Eve tokens?  The whole world would die out.